NASCAR Air Gun Fix!

guido · Mar 13, 2018

Hello,

Anybody watch Nascar? The air gun fix is a air hose detention as a shock absorber. I guess I should have PATENT my idea?. Here is my air gun, been 40 years, more or less, since the FIX. I also did it as the hose did not get greasy, so was easy to pick the gun without dropping it,

Guido.

showcrop · Mar 13, 2018

That looks like an air impact wrench. What does the fix fix?

JackC · Mar 13, 2018

(quoted from post at 16:31:58 03/13/18)
That looks like an air impact wrench. What does the fix fix?

It moves the connected away from the air gun and inline with the hose. Reduces the stress on the fitting. We did this on our air guns about 40 years ago, but we called it a whip.

Angle Iron · Mar 13, 2018

I really do mot watch this racing much at all so take this with a grain of salt. It's pretty damn stupid to say a team a team has an unfair advantage when they use the best tools they can. Why not in this world of every body gets a trophy and a cup cake after the game don't they as in nas car (sp) build the cares from the ground up. They could furnish the cars, engines, transmissions and pit crews as well. Then if they see a team still winning too many races they can stop issuing winning trophy's and just give out buttons that say I raced too. I realize they have to have rules and what I said was stupid but so is restricting the tools they use. This became a kings sport a long time ago.

Angle Iron · Mar 13, 2018

Should have proof read it before posting.

gab · Mar 13, 2018

A whip hose. Looks like a Chicago Pneumatic gun with a Snap On cover.

guido · Mar 13, 2018

Hello showcrop,

The hose takes all the shock, no more broken fittings,

Guido.

guido · Mar 13, 2018

Hello Angle Iron,

Thanks for pointing that out. There is a reason why it happened. I have a long memory,

Guido.

K Effective · Mar 13, 2018

I remember seeing a part of one race coverage where they actually went through some of the tool "fixes" the race teams had: souped-up impact wrenches running on compressed nitrogen, the ultra-light jacks with improved pumps and short handles for easier pit stop use, every single item analyzed for shortest possible times. Pretty cool

Oliver 500 Wa · Mar 13, 2018

Pretty much all aviation mechanics air tools I've seen are set up with a whip or double swivel.

steve706 · Mar 13, 2018

All the Cherrymax, rivet guns, and air drills we have have a whip with a swivel on them as well.

shaun wallace · Mar 13, 2018

That is way C P shows in their catalogs from back in 60s-70s that we have at where I work.

Phil9N3667 · Mar 13, 2018

As stated above, I use double swivels on most of my air tools. With the 3/8" industrial style connectors , makes it easier when in tight spots to get the hose out of the way. I use both the Snap On and Blue Point.

hydro70guy · Mar 13, 2018

What shock does the hose take that an air hose would not.

Joe

David G · Mar 13, 2018

My CP from the 70s always had a whip, was told to put one on.

Aaron SEIA · Mar 14, 2018

It changes where the coupler takes it's load. With the whip, the coupler is in-line with the hose. Coupler mounted straight into the body of the gun can have some heavy loads on it at sharp angles if the gun is tossed around. Heavy sharp angle loads+small diameter pipe=potential broken air hose under 150+ lbs of pressure.
AaronSEIA

Hobo,NC · Mar 14, 2018

I never liked a whip hose don't know why just did not like the coupler away from the gun...

Nascar's attempt to lower cost each origination had a full time specialist that worked on air guns taking there air guns away eliminated one race team employee. It was the same deal limiting how many of the pit guys can go over the wall. They are looking into supplying a spec engine and making them run the same engine for several are more races. I think next year they are going to nascar supplied composite body parts. A buds son worked as a engineer for JGR he found another job away from racing he said it was just to much pressure knowing his job was in jeopardy all the time from cost cuts.

He did get a free collage education out of it tho

he won a scholarship a free ride from nascar in 2004...

showcrop · Mar 14, 2018

(quoted from post at 19:09:38 03/13/18) What shock does the hose take that an air hose would not.

Joe

I can see now what it does. It reduces the rigid fitting length at the wrench by probably an inch. Because there is just one fitting there instead of two. I can see it making a big difference.

guido · Mar 14, 2018

Hello Aaron SEIA,

The fitting is 3/8 pipe 1/4 ID. The hose is 13/32 ID. The compressor was 15 HP three phase set @ 175#. I cut the pressure down with the built in regulator though. We ran the one in. impact on one in. pipe, and a one in. hose. Not too many things it could not shake loose,

Guido.

sotxbill · Mar 14, 2018

I can remember in the 70s when I purchase my first NEW air tool, it recommended a "whip" to keep the vibration from damaging the thread/fittings at the gun... Apparently the whip lowered the weight and forces at the bottom of the gun and acted as a shock assorber for vibrations. I bought a whip, put it on, and it leaked horrible and promptly took it off.. So...48 years later I still have not worn out the fitting at the bottom of the gun... I have worn out a lot of air tools, but never the air fitting.

guido · Mar 14, 2018

Hello sotxbill,

The hose on mine is workshop #8 made for power steering application. Kind of
overkill?. They are 3/8 pipe fittings 1/4" ID.The air compressor at work was
bigger the normal. Three phase 15HP, set at 175# cut off. I cut the pressure
down on mine and that is why it still works,

Guido.

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