MSS3020

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I inherited so to speak one of these.. holds 25 gallons.. gravity flow from bottom which is not helpful..

I fill tractor now with 5 gallon containers.. thought I might use the caddy somehow to fill..I fill a diesel tractor with a 55 gallon drum and hand pump..

Is it possible to adapt air hose chuck to top and push out fuel from bottom up to tractor by force of air in??
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be pretty risky with plastic. would need a regulator and use only about 2 psi., even then ??.kind of a goofy idea as it is faster to fill by 5 gallon jug . even if it was mounted up high its still goofy.
 
I have one of those. I can't even get gas to run out the hose. I think it has a bad spot in it. No fun when you wrestle it up onto the hood of a tractor and no gas comes out.

However it is not a bad tank to carry in the truck laying down. Easy to fill and secure. I have thought of shortening the suction of a barrel pump to maybe 8 inches or so and adapting it to the filler cap inlet. It would be nice if it could be adapted so that it was fairly rigid. When the tank gets low it would be easy to tilt it so the gas comes to the end where the pump can reach it. As you say......just thoughts.
 
No! Just like rusted said, anything over 2 psi would be dangerous, and that would only push the gas up 4-5 ft. Those are made for putting gas in a boat from a tall dock, work good for that. Sell it to someone with a boat!
 
A friend of mine with a boat did the research, and here in NY state it does not appear to be legal to transport gasoline in containers larger than 5 gallons, and you are limited to 20 gallons total outside the vehicle's own fuel tank. Any more than that requires CDL, hazmat endorsement, and placarding. That tank is useless here.
 
do not pressurize diesel it is a combustible which means it combusts under pressure as apposed to a flammable such as gasoline I don't know the exact pressure needed but you are making a bomb !
 
If the pump in the nozzle is not pumping you have an air leak. I replaced the flimsy hose clamps with Ideal clamps and mine works great, but I only fill two or three gallons at a time. Enough to get whatever it is to the big tank with an electric pump. I put it in the bottom of my truck toolbox so I always have some extra gas with me. With all the super battery tools we have these days, I wonder if anyone makes a battery powered "nozzle"? Have to be all sealed up for safety of course but be real handy for a tank like this.
 
thanks all.. I could fill at coop and put in skidloader bucket to get higher then tractor.. Seems like alot of work to fill.. LOL..

Just thought Id ask.. probably end up in the loft and auctioned off someday after im gone..LOL
 
I looked at one of those and like you said "gravity" only, kills the deal, however I thought of a 12 volt fuel pump in line. Lots of fuel pumps to chose from ,but cost was the reason I never tried it. joe
 
(quoted from post at 13:13:39 03/13/18) do not pressurize diesel it is a combustible which means it combusts under pressure as apposed to a flammable such as gasoline I don't know the exact pressure needed but you are making a bomb !

Actually you can pressurize diesel all you want and it does not become flammable. It is combustible at atmospheric pressure. It is pressurizing AND forcing it through a nozzle that atomizes it that makes it burn well, which is what happens in your tractor and your home oil burner.
 
I investigated several versions of fuel caddies before deciding that they were just about useless for fueling tractors.

OK for filling the lawn mower from a PU truck bed but that's about it.

Still using 5/6 gal cans.

Dean
 
Not a flame. Simply not true. If it did the injection pump would explode as it puts 10s of thousands of PSI into the fuel. it is just oil. Jim
 
no oxygen in the lines or pump just fuel that's why it cant explode, then how does it explode in the cylinder? air is added and then compressed just like putting pressure in a plastic fuel jug
 
I looked at a couple with hand pumps but I'm not willing to spend $500 - $1,100 for a fuel caddy.

Dean
 
Compressing the fuel a few PSI is not the problem, the problem is using oxygenated air to compress the fuel. The definition of flammable vs combustible has to do with flash point temp above/below 100*F. Flash point is the lowest temp in which fuel vapor will ignite. Diesel flash point is around 120*F so its combustible, Gasoline flash point is around -40*f, so its flammable

Diesel vapors are explosive, just like gasoline vapors. and both can explode with just a very little amount of air.

FYI, diesel injector pump pressures can reach 30,000 PSI, GDI gasoline direct injection pressures can reach 3000 PSI. Compressing the fuel is not the dangerous part.
 
This is what I did...
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Bought the caddy with pump off Craigslist, built the pump stand from stuff in my junk pile, added a quick disconnect to the hose that goes to the caddy. I use it for diesel, maybe I should paint the caddy yellow.

I load it into be back of my pickup when empty and use my loader to off load it when full. No more dealing with 5 gallon fuel cans.

For gas, I added a quick disconnect to the fuel rail on my 2000 Chevy pickup. Added an under-hood switch and relay to turn on the fuel pump. Pull the mower up to the truck, connect the hose and fillerup. Little slow but beats hauling 5 gallon jugs.
 
thats the way Ive done it for years.. sticking with it.. Caddy would make a great watering device for small trees or garden thats far from water supply..
 
The compressed air in the cylinder is very hot. Hot enough to ignite diesel fuel. Compressing air in a plastic jug to a few PSI creates a temperature change in tenths of a degree. Pour diesel fuel into your gasoline engine. Pressure is certainly there, (150psi ish) but way less than enough to ignite diesel. It will not run. Jim
 
(quoted from post at 03:41:24 03/17/18) Those are intended to fuel boats sitting at a dock.

Mark, they are also used by all the landscapers. They pull the trailer up to the pump to fill the tank, then before loading the mower after mowing the lawn they pull up to the caddy and fill it.
 

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