Dellinger Buzz Saw

KV Bruce

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Bought this Dellinger saw a a yard sale yesterday. $100 The guy said they used to attach to the three point on a Ford 8N. Is it a buzz saw or buck saw? Anyone with experience with one of these. Doesn't look like the safest tool in the shed.
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My guess is buck saw. I do know a lot of machinery will have a couple of names. Oh well. When you use a chain saw and cut across a log, that is a buck cut.
 
I owned a Dellinger burr mill a few years ago. It looked very similar to a New Holland mill but had very few markings. After some research I found that Dellinger was purchased by New Holland and that is how New Holland added a line of small farm equipment such as shellers, grinders, buzz saws etc.
 
Well I can add another couple names Buzz Saw, Buck Saw, Cordwood Saw, and check this out Dellinger calls it a Power Lift Saw. so this should answer your Question about the Dellinger Saw. But adds more confusion to every one else LOL. Oh and it is only as dangerous as you are careless just respect it and remember you can get hurt with a chain saw to. They always show two people working, one taking the cut wood away the other running the saw you don't want the cut chunks piling up under the blade. Be safe.
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This saw is definitely a Buzz Saw used for cutting fire wood. A very dangerous saw. I doubt this saw was on a 8N ford. It was run with a endless belt. I don't believe the pto on a "Ford 8N would turn it fast enough. They worked good for sharpening fence post also.
 
After seeing the pictures from another post ,I was wrong about the saw being on an 8N Ford. I still don't know how it would be run.
 
I would not want a buzz saw that was not mechanical mounted on tractor, too much chance for it to bind and spin.
 
Everyone that I have ever known calls such saw a buzz saw.

They were once very common when most small farms burned wood.

Dearborn sold thousands for use with 9/2/8N tractors and subsequent models.

Though not possible to determine from the photos, the pictured saw appears to be an early model, perhaps without three point mounting features.

The saw was belt driven from the right angle Ford PTO pulley and was designed such that raising the lift slackened the belt, stopping the blade for transport. Lowering the lift tightened the belt, starting the blade for use. Later models had blade guards.

Using the saw was a three man operation: A sawyer, a feeder and a stacker.

Three experienced men could cut a great deal of firewood, much more than could three or more good men with good chain saws. Indeed, the chain saw boys would pack up and go home.

Dean
 
You are right, you mean like this one now I need to erase Buck saw from my list above LOL.
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A sawbuck was a wooden X frame that you put your wood in to saw it into cords. Buck saw is pictured below by flembo. I'm sure that people have different names depending on where they live, but around here most people call they buzz saw because of the noise they make when you use them. Some were mounted on the 3ph some were mounted on the front of tractors and others like yours just set on the ground and ran off the flat belt. As a side note, if it were for a stationary engine it wood have a flywheel on the shaft with the belt pully and saw blade. You can clean the blade with a brick as the saw is turning. They are not supposed to be run at high speeds.
 
I just knew someone would know more than me. (not really very hard to though) I would truly appreciate it if you could somehow scan and email your information page. Here is a picture of the attach end of the saw. Thanks to everyone for their input. This site is great platform for learning. Bruce

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My dad ran one first on the front of an IHC F-20. Then on the front of an Allis Chalmers WD. Then on the back of an Allis Chalmers C.
My job was to throw the pieces of wood from the saw into the trailer, starting when I was about 8 years old.

Dusty
 


Buzz, buck or cordwood saw, pretty much interchangeable terms. Different manufacturers had their own terminology. You'll need the right angle drive to run it off an N series. Lots of them available. An N series will most certainly run it more than fast enough to cut fine. The blade will need servicing before use, sharpening, setting, maybe swaging depending on style.

Yeah, buzzsaws get a bad rap on the "DANGEROUS" end of things, usually by people who've never even seen one run, much less run one themselves. No more dangerous than a chainsaw or many other farm implements. Regardless of internet opinion to the contrary, a guy with his brain engaged can cut up a lot of wood with one of them and not go home missing arms and legs.
 
You would only open the throttle about 1/4 to 3/8 open. More than that and it would be way to fast. you don't want the blade to sing, that is way to fast. I have a 3 point saw as well as a stake down type. And the most dangerous part of a stake down saw is stumbling over the chain holding the saw to a stake in the ground, 1" shaft driven in at an angle to keep chain from sliding up and in ground a full foot or soft ground 18". You need a bunch of other stakes driven in at least 10" to keep saw from moving from tension on belt. I have run both saws by myself but it is easiser with at least 3 guys but 5 or 6 is better so you don't get too tired as a saw can tire out 5 guys real fast handling all the wood you can put thru one.
 

I've run my belt type buzz saw for a number of years and never had to "stake it down". It sits on 4x6" skids and the flat belt has a bit of sag in it. Run it with a VAC and it does fine, but I've got a good long belt. I have holes drilled in the skids for staking, but haven't needed to use them yet. Maybe mines heavier than some others? My skids stick out at the back of the saw, nothing to trip over in front.
 
My Sears saw you try that and you would never get the belt tightened, you would just keep on draging saw untill it turned sideways enough the beht would come off the pully. We have had it while working loosen the stakes enough to do that sideways turn and throw the belt while working. I don't think the complete saw weighs 300#.
 

How long a belt are you using? I don't think mines weighs 200 lbs since I lifted it into the back of my truck when I bought it. You don't need a lot of weight if the belt has some sag in it and is long enough. Maybe the skids I put it on make a big difference? My belt IIRC is 60 foot long or thereabouts. Puts the tractor 25-30 foot away and gives it decent sag.
 

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