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da.bees

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Just in case misery love's company. I took a Ryobi string trimmer in for warranty July 1st. They warned me fuel related problems did not fall under warranty. They replaced piston and engine block, called yesterday saying it was ready. I asked him to start it before I left. Two mechanics working togeather couldn't get it started and told me to leave it with them. Next time you can't figure out what's wrong with a string trimmer,take solace in knowing the pros can't figure them out either. I see a Sthil in my future.
 

You said [color=blue:5cfc6b3e5c]Two mechanics working togeather couldn't get it started and told me to leave it with them[/color:5cfc6b3e5c]

You called them wrong, they ain't mechanics
 
Don.t know what you use it for but that is why we went with a Toro 24 volt string trimmer as long as you charge the battery it will start and it has plenty of power for our trimming needs. Randy
 
I had a couple of older trimmers that were almost impossible to start. Checked compression and below 90. Bought rings and all and did an OH. Worked ok but the small one was too short and not much power and the large one a McCullough 35 (CC) was the straight shaft with the gear box on the end and was really heavy.

I had just bought my second Stihl chain saw because I had worn out the existing one and the new ones had the easy start functioning.
While doing that I had a look at their weed whackers. Wound up buying the FS 50 which has a 7" longer than usual shaft (for us 6'5" guys) but doesn't have the weight of the gearbox.....shaft is the curved type. These also have the easy start feature with the easy pull and a primer bulb and a choke butterfly for super starts.

Smaller engine than then 35 but is a mean machine. More than enough power for the big weeds with the woody stems. Runs on .080 twine where the 35 ran on .095 so it sacrifices more easily but the head is a quick feed. To replenish the string, you cut off 2 pieces 6' long, line up the arrows on the head and push into the feed holes about an inch till it stops. Then just turn the knob which sucks your string up into the head and you're ready to go.

I use Stihl silver full syn in the single dose 6-8 packs (forget which) and it's 50:1. I decided to use 1.5 bottle per gallon rather than the bottle since full syn burns good with little to no smoke and I'm getting better ring protection.

Very happy with the purchases and made right here in the USA.
 
I bought one many years ago from Home Deput.. Has been a great trimmer for me..I have about 50000 sq. ft lawn so ive put many hours on it.. and have replaced the clutch a few times.. Dad had a twin and gave it to me and bought a stihl.. So I have a spare if needed..
 
I buy very little from big box stores just because they don't service what they sell and handle very few parts for what they sell.
 
Wise choice, the high end trimmer will save you money in the end. I bought two FS 110 Stihl trimmers when the 4-mix engines first came out, guessing mid 2000s? Outside of routine annual maintenance all we have done is run them.
 
Save yourself headaches and money, buy an Echo. I wanted to buy a Stihl back around 1998, local Simplicity/Kubota/Stihl dealer asked me if I was O-K with saving $100 over the top of the line Stihl. He carry out an Echo. Says they sell twice as many and have never had one returned for repairs. I started trimming weeds with Round-Up shortly after buying the Echo but did use it some. SON bought a house and I gave it to him. He uses it at least once a week. Wife stopped using her new 19.2V Craftsman I bought her, said I should start trimming again. So I went to Blains Farm&Fleet, $225 for another new Echo, and it trims like crazy. I was cutting down 2-3 foot tall smart weeds last week with it. Replacing the string is a pain but it feeds new string out well. The Echo has a primer bulb on the carb, should start in 2-3 pulls. Wish my Stihl saws started as well.
 
I bought an echo this year. Fastest, most simple string re- load I ever seen. Cut 20 ft of line stick it in hole , pull through even ,then twist head. Winds right in.
 
Echo make a good machines but in our area we had 8 dealers and now we have only one and he doesn't stock very many parts. Husky has also got to be the same way. Their dealers said they couldn't sell saws and weed eater for the price that big box stores were selling them for.
 

First time I saw a primer bulb, thought it was squirting fuel into the intake, like an accelerator pump.

Then read they were actually filling the entire fuel system; so you didn't have to pull the cord multiple times to get all the lines flushed and full of fuel.

Why they never included those on chain saws, until recently, never made any sense. Most saws have engines that are 2 or 3 times larger than a weedwhacker, so they would benefit even more than a 30cc engine. Damn hard to yank on a 75cc engine for a minute to get the thing primed to run....
 
These modern non-adjustable EPA-mandated engines are tuned to run at peak performance with the recommended amount of oil. Any additional oil reduces the amount of fuel going into the engine, which creates a lean condition, and scorched jugs and pistons.

So you might want to re-think your "more oil is better" theory.
 
I guess I don't understand that if oil (a combustable , lubricating product, especially synthetic based, tolerable of heat up in the 400F
range) leans out an engine to the point that it overheats and as a result suffers metal to metal degradation then I must have missed the
bus! Besides, numerous machine's owner's manuals for engines spec 40:1, not the 50:1 Stihl specs. Must be some flu flu dust
somewhere!
 
(quoted from post at 14:30:03 08/09/17) I guess I don't understand that if oil (a combustable , lubricating product, especially synthetic based, tolerable of heat up in the 400F
range) leans out an engine to the point that it overheats and as a result suffers metal to metal degradation then I must have missed the
bus! Besides, numerous machine's owner's manuals for engines spec 40:1, not the 50:1 Stihl specs. Must be some flu flu dust
somewhere!

The reason it leans out is because the more oil the thicker the fuel becomes and can't flow through the jets. You can run it at a 40:1 or a 32:1 but you need to richen it up to compensate for the thicker mix.
 
(quoted from post at 06:22:53 08/09/17) Just in case misery love's company. I took a Ryobi string trimmer in for warranty July 1st. They warned me fuel related problems did not fall under warranty. They replaced piston and engine block, called yesterday saying it was ready. I asked him to start it before I left. Two mechanics working togeather couldn't get it started and told me to leave it with them. Next time you can't figure out what's wrong with a string trimmer,take solace in knowing the pros can't figure them out either. I see a Sthil in my future.

I LOVE my Shindaiwa T262 (same except for some control locations as an Echo 2620). Both the Shindaiwa and the Echo have the speed feed heads which allow you to cut 20 feet of string, align an arrow and the string hole and then feed it through and then wind it up. You can replace the string in about 1 minute.

It is the best trimmer that I have ever used. It is light enough to hold in any position that I need and strong enough to clear thick grass and clover from a long irrigation ditch. I run it hard and it never has any issues. Tank after tank wide open and it always comes back for more.

I have had a Ryobi trimmers in the past and I wear them out in a season.
 
Stihl weed eaters have had primer bulbs from at least the late 90's.and you can change out a spool of sting in 5 minutes or less.
 
I bought a 40 volt CORE brand, its a commercial grade trimmer, made in the USA, I do not ever think I will go back to a gas trimmer. Line up the arrow on the bottom of the head, push the string thru, wind in the string and you are done. Battery lasts me around 2 hours.
 
Aside from the fact that my back won't take swinging a gas trimmer for long, both my old Homelight Bandits had cracked primer bulbs last week, after our wettest July ever. Found a Black&Decker 20V trimmer on Amazon that clips into a little mower deck! It's the cutest thing, looks like a 5-year-old's toy lawn mower, and pushes that way too. But I knocked out around 1000 square feet of 8-10" weeds this morning and still had a little power in the second battery. More like pushing a vacuum cleaner than a mower, more performance than I expected for the price ($120), and I'll still be able to walk tomorrow.
 
(quoted from post at 16:21:32 08/12/17) McCulloch used a primer on their older saw carburetors for many years.

I got a 30 year old 3.7 Eager Beaver, no primer bulb. I have a squirt bottle of pre-mix I shoot into the air filter housing to prime it.

The reason you need to re-jet when making large changes in the oil content is the oil is displacing gasoline! A big part of what gasoline does in the engine is to cool it thru evaporation; oil won't do that, so it can/will run hotter with more oil.

2 stroke engines need all the help with cooling that they can get.

If you can keep the spark plug from fouling, you get best power with 12-1 oil ratios and the correct jetting.

No one will run that for very long because of the smoke and fouling. But it does give best power.
 

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