OT: Civility, here and elsewhere

Stan in Oly, WA

Well-known Member
Civility seems to be at a low ebb in our beloved country lately. Maybe you've noticed. I don't mean to be the one to start a discussion about that, though. What I'd like to bring to everyone's attention is that, bucking the national trend, civility and courtesy on this forum seem to be at an all time high right now (all time for the fifteen years that I've been watching or participating here, at least). I don't know about the other forums on this site, but I hope they're all experiencing the same run of good will.

It wasn't always this way. There used to be some touchy people here who took offense quickly, and liked to come out swinging. Conversations would sometimes get way out of hand, then suddenly disappear. People disappeared too. Sometimes they would get so offended or so outraged that they would just stop participating. Sometimes they would be so offensive or so outrageous that they would get banned. I think that people who like that kind of thing don't have any trouble finding all they want online, so we don't actually need it here.

I want to say that I really appreciate the civility here. It's like nice weather. Nice weather might seem like nothing special, but you don't have to go through many blizzards or hurricanes to begin to see its charm.

Stan
 

A good observation Stan , as well as great sentiments . One of the reasons I continue to read and contribute to this forum . :)
 
I think you can thank the site cops. The word is clearly posted, keep it civil or you're out. Seems to be working!!!!!!!
 
Good post, I've been here like 20 years and I've seen them come and I've seen them go. There are some here who seem to have an attitude "Its my way or the highway" and if you dare disagree or offer an opposing opinion or a different way of doing things then theirs THEY GO BALLSISTIC ON YOU lol. For my part I try to be polite kind and professional even if my viewpoint differs from another. Unlike some I never criticize anothers chosen field or education or occupation they used to raise their families be they ditch diggers or farmers or teachers or mechanics or plumbers or doctors or lawyers. To each their own live and let live is my thinking. Its fine to have a different point of view or method or opinion BUT NO NEED TO MAKE IT PERSONAL I figure. Were just guys trying our best to help each other which is why I contribute what little I can now n then.

Best wishes n God Bless all

John T Old Christian Conservative Fuddy Duddy lol
 
I guess it's like anything else in life. I have always tried to treat people the way I would like to be treated, but it has not always worked this way. Unfortunately, there are people who claim to know it all.
 
I've only been registered for over a year, looked at it about a year earlier than that and decided to join cause of the civility and knowledge base.

But really, how can you own a 40 plus year old tractor, have a love of the outdoors, are attuned to the cycles of rain and heat and what's blooming and still be thin skinned? We all have our little political quirks, but that's what made us great to begin with.

I honestly think the nature and subject of the forum demands civility. My two cents.
 

This site isn't bad at all. Yeah, you get the rare bird that thinks swearing makes him look manly or that posting girly pics is appropriate, or just can't take any criticism whatsoever. But all in all this is a decent site filled with decent people.
 
I came to this site,because I liked what I saw. Friendly people just trying to help. No need to jump anyone. Just keep it civil we may not always agree. But at least we can talk it out. Without the name calling you find on other sites.

I am on the Smokstak. We have the same rules over there. We have had our share of rude people. But they don't last long. We have two standing rules.
Keep things civil or leave.
No such thing as a dumb question. If you knew you wouldn't be asking.
Site has different sections little bit of everything. If you have never been there give it a try.Good people that freely give out information. All free even if your not a member.
 
(quoted from post at 05:19:00 07/22/17) I guess it's like anything else in life. I have always tried to treat people the way I would like to be treated, but it has not always worked this way. Unfortunately, there are people who claim to know it all.
I DO NOT!! :lol:

John T mentioned about the attitude "[i:75f951ba8b]Its my way or the highway[/i:75f951ba8b]", and it's sad that there are people who get online and think that just because "The Internet" comes into THEIR Living Room, that they can do any dang thing they want! But there are all types of people out there, and it doesn't just have to do with internet. For example, yesterday morning the wife got up and came in, surprised that she didn't hear me getting up. Back when we first got married, she wanted me to wake her up every time I got up, but I refused. Sorry, can't do it. It's called being considerate. I try very hard to respect other people and, in this instance, cannot understand the process of waking her up just to say I'm getting up. If I was leaving the house, that'd be a different story.

And while we're on YT (or any other website), we're just visitors to someone else's site. If they have rules that state no politics and be polite, then we "should" respect their wishes. ...Personally, it's the people here who keep me coming back! No, it's not perfect, but I think it's about as close to perfect as one can reasonably expect, especially in this day and age.
 
Stan in Oly, WA- 'Geo-TH,In' is taking a beating upstairs in his thread titled "Police decide to patrol Suicide I 70".
 
One of the reasons for the good feelings is the time of the year. Yep. It's seasonal. When the weather turns and the fields become mud, moods change. When folks are stuck inside looking at work that needs done outside, moods change. I nearly lost interest back in '06(?). I thought my welcome was wore clear out. Late fall early winter sure has an effect on folks. Don't take it personally.

Oddly, snowstorms seems to have a positive effect.

Your results may vary,

Aaron
 
As near as I can see, the reason for that is, he's only looking at a very small part of the overall picture.

Yes, it's saddening to hear about someone who died before their time in some freak accident. But we have to remember, death is a natural and necessary part of life.

That said, it would seem that this particular construction zone might very well need some attention in order to make it a little safer. However, we have so very few facts to go on that right now, it's literally anybody's guess as to why the elevated number of deaths there. Could it be distracted drivers? Bad zone planning? Not enough warning? Road layout? And what condition is the road in> Is it rough and bumpy? Are there adequate shoulders? Does the road/zone get narrow enough to make many folks claustrophobic? There's just not enough info. And still, what about the thousands of other auto-related fatalities in the US every year?

George is harping about something very close to him. That's perfectly understandable. But for folks like Jon F who drives over endless miles of roadways every year, and for folks like us who rarely leave the property, it's not as big an issue. Sad, yes! Again, always sad to hear about such tragedy. ...But it's a part of life.

Modern society has tried so hard to sterilize life and make it as safe as possible, but actually to the point where many people simply cannot recognize danger when it's right in front of them. So it's not that we're "beating" Geo over this, but just trying to get another point across.




FWIW - Some people may see where I mention how Geo's construction zone might need attention, and think that I'm contradicting myself where I would mention how modern society is dulling our sense of danger. No contradiction. I'm simply covering both aspects.
 
Greg, I went to that forum and read what had been posted on that topic so far. I have a couple of observations about that: First, it still seemed reasonably civil to me. Some people have an abrasive style even when they're aiming to be funny or think they're engaging in constructive debate. That's never going to change. Reasonable people who have been exposed to some of the world generally don't have trouble dealing with that. Second, that was mild. I didn't read any posts that made me think the person on the receiving end would be stunned, and spend the next day or two obsessing about the best way to retaliate. I'd also like to point out that if that's as bad as it gets, I view that as more or less supporting my original point. There probably never will be a debate which doesn't involve some people being unnecessarily rude because, let's face it, some people are just jerks (you can substitute any descriptive word that works for you in place of "jerks"). But there's still a huge difference between a debate where people raise their voices and begin providing more heat than light, and one in which they begin throwing chairs.

Stan
 
There is difficulty with 'social media' which a forum like this is a part of.

When we meet on the street or tractor club or fair or coffee shop, we can size each other up, and know if the other person is young or old, looks fun loving or sour grape, curious or terribly shy, etc.

We get that instant feedback and we change our approach to ease into a conversation - or avoid one all together.

In printed word like this, all of that is different. I don't know if you are 21 or 81, you don't know me either.

It is hard to sort that out in a forum like this.

So, either side of a conversation can get miffed pretty easy, and no one really intended it. Just different people with different backgrounds coming together and not used to this 'sudden' interaction without being able to expect what we get ahead of time.

Paul
 
I agree, the forum is great that way. And I'm sorry about your dog. I hope you won't think I'm being negative when I say that I don't think you ever get completely over that. Eventually you just make an accommodation, and move on. What else can you do?

Stan
 
It's not just the country it's the entire world. People are getting crowded. Wouldn't surprise me if WWIII was around the corner.
 
He tried telling the IRS they couldn't take his bank account. Found out he was wrong. Just like all experts seem to find out. They found eighty five thousand in the bank he couldn't account for. Also never paid taxes on.
 
One thing about this forum and other help forums: most people here will help out another if they possibly can, and do it just for the warm fuzzy. So a large percentage of users start out being nice guys to begin with.
 

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