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I need help with mini tire changer can't get to work.

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Greenbird21

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I bought the HF mini tire changer
for some small ATV tires ( kids 4 wheeler ) and spent all day trying to put two tires on and am still not finished! I cannot get the tool to
overcome the tightness of either the old or new tires to remove one or get one off. I don't know what I'm doing wrong but I've followed the
instructions and watched you tube videos and can't see what I'm doing any differently. I can't get the tool to stay in place while trying to turn it. So frustrating. Normal amount of cussing with this
devise. Last night I resorted to a hack saw to cut the bead. Disgusting.
 
The small tires can be harder than big tires!

I don't know about the kid size ATV tires, but we changed one here at the shop on a regular ATV...

OMG what an ordeal!!!

The tire was incredibly tight on the rim. We ended up breaking it with a sharpened 2x4 under the fork lift forks!

Then like to have never got the new tire to seat. With the bead soaped, had to greatly exceed the max pressure to get it seated. Scary!

So, you may just be pushing the machine beyond it's limits with the small size and particularly tough job.
 
You're probably doing everything right, but you're up against a tough beast. I agree with Steve that the smaller the tire, the harder the job. I do almost all of my own tire dismounting and mounting; it's the small (e.g., garden tractor fronts) that give me the most problems. I've had to take some small tires to a pro shop to get the bead to seat once I've finished the mounting. My 150 psi just wasn't up to the job.
 
ATV tires have a "safety bead" in the rim that helps keep the tires on the rims with only 5PSI in them. It makes them very difficult to break the bead and then to get them reseated.

That HF tire changer is meant for wheelbarrow and lawn mower tires, and is only marginal for those purposes.

When we put the new tires on the ATV a few weeks back, I used an ESCO manual bead breaker, and good old fashioned full sized tire spoons.

Getting the old tire off and the new one on wasn't too bad with these tools, but getting the bead to seat was a challenge. Like Steve@Advance, we had to greatly exceed the maximum pressure of the tire to get the bead to seat. On the first one I got a face full of tire soap when it popped, so on the second one everyone stood behind something solid, and we ran air into it using the on-off valve on the compressor until it popped.

Not for the faint of heart.
 
They do make a tire changer for ATV tires and they make changing ATV tires a snap. Had 1 in the tire shop but age has made me forgetfull, cant remember the name. I think it was around $400.00 when we bought it. Best $400.00 we ever spent. paid for itself many times.
 
Have the beads broken down at a tire store... Those tire machines with a side breaker will break the bead on most anything rat now... Clean the rims good and add bead sealer to the bead are you will have a leaker...
 
Ok so thanks for the replies, I appreciate the help. Here's what I wound up with; and btw I had no trouble at all breaking the beads because I never even tried the small breaker bar included in the tool kit, instead I used a large one I had made that I welded to a pole in my shop. The Dificulty for the most part was due to me trying to remove and replace the tires on the wrong side of the rim. Apparently there is only one way ( side of the rim) that you can pull a tire off of and push a tire on. I forget the name of this type rim but it is meant to keep a low pressure tire from unseating the bead during heavy side loading. I unknowingly had one rim correctly oriented and successfully got one off and on, but then took the other to wal mart and the guys there at first had a hard time until they flipped it over and told me what was happening.
 
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