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Water softener? Round 2-olilt Dean

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used red MN

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Ok in short my first post ask what causes resin to go out of the softener and into the water supply
(toilet tank). So Internet search and confirmed on here the distributor was the likely problem. So I
pulled it apart and I don't see anything wrong with the distributor. Have about a third of the resin
gone at this point. So one of the other recommendations on the Internet is air drawn into the brine
during recharge. So does this sound legit, how do I test for this? I can make the control head go in
to test mode and cycle through recharge steps manually. The second valve setting is called
"brining", I assume that is where I would find the problem with air getting in if that is the issue.
What would I be looking for to tell me air entry is the problem? One other question I have is will the resin change in properties? Will it become lighter and flow out with the water for some reason? I saw on the Internet where someone opened up their water softener resin tank and the resin oozed out the top like it was expanding l think they said it was caused by chlorine. Sorry for the long post. TIA
Round 1 post
 
A broken distributor tube / basket is the only situation I have direct experience with as far as resin going out of the softener. The only other information I can offer is that the tube going into the brine tank furnishes water to the brine tank, and sucks it out into to the resin tank as part of the regeneration process. About the only thing you could do is check the line to the brine tank and make sure it is not leaking. There is also an assembly on the end of the brine tube that should be checked and cleaned as necessary, but I don't know if it would have anything to do with resin going out of the softener. I draw my water from a well, so I don't really know what effect chlorine has on resin. Wish I could offer something more definitive. Let us know if you are able to resolve the problem.
 
So as far as the distributor being broken a think I would see a section of the "screening" (for lack of a better term) broke out or a fairly large crack in the tube or possibly the tube would be completely snapped off. Anything that would cause the water flow to flow back up in one channel stirring the resin up, allowing it to be mixed up with the water flowing out is that correct? I don't see any kind of damage like that. What would cause break like that to happen?
 
In my case, I broke the basket on the end of the distribution tube while reinserting it into the resin. I have a summer cottage, and winterize the softener for the winter. When I removed the control head, the distributor tube partially came out with the control head. Like a dummy, I pounded it back in with the palm of my hand, instead of working it up and down. Are you sure you are seeing resin? It is very, very fine, and red, brown in color with a metallic sheen when dry. It will clog everything. If you are only seeing it in your toilet tank, and nothing else seems affected, it may not be resin. You should also know the resin tank is not completely filled with resin, only about 2/3 to 3/4 full.
 
Now looking closer at the softener manual I see that the normal service flow is opposite of what I thought. So what I was saying about the resin being carried out by the water flow would have to happen in the backwash cycle and out the recharge drain. Which I do see resin by the discharge of the drain into the floor drain. I just looked at the distributor closer and now I see it looks like the connection between the distributor and the tube is a little loose so, the tube may be cracked. Possibly enough gap to let the resin pass. Going to check it out closer tomorrow. Thanks for the info.
 
I expected that you would find a broken or damaged distributor and or down tube and cannot directly answer your other questions.

If mine, I would buy a rebuild kit for the unit (cheap) and disassemble /repair it. I would replace the resin at the same time but only if I found the problem.

Also verify proper operation of the limit switches.

If I could not find the problem upon disassembly or if it is a computer controlled unit, I would probably replace the entire unit as there us no practical way to diagnose the controller.

Dean
 
Is it possible that water is being drawn while the unit is back washing? Just a guess on my part. Mine has a bypass valve so that if someone would use water while it is back washing, the process would not be affected. The resin in my tank is fairly large and would block the screen in the toilet fill valve.
 
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