22 caliber AR15 style rifle

jimlll

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I am interested in purchasing an AR15 style rifle in 22 caliber. What are your recomendations, what should I look for?
Thanks for all suggestions and recomendations.
Jim
 
Ask yourself why you need a look alike rifle to an assault weapon. If hitting things with one shot, or varmint control is a goal, buy a rifle that is heavy enough to hold steady. My opinion is Don't. Purchase an accurate hunting, or target rifle. I use a 12ga with )) buck to make seperate holes in a target. Jim
one like I would want.
 
I agree with Jim! Also if there ever is any more successful gun control in this country assault type rifles would be the first to go, and I agree. Assault rifles never should of been allowed for civilian ownership in the first place.
 
Does that include the 30 carbine that has been available since the mid 40's? Semi auto center care rifle with detachable magazine. I don't own any but even a blind man can see that it is headed for a semi auto ban if it gets started, look at the latest debacle with the attorney general of Massachusetts.
 
I like the Colt M4 OPS, Its the military version in semi auto, full 30 round clip and aluminum upper and lower. Its still light enough to work with and accurate enough for head shots, which is what you want in a mob situation.
 

Should be able to easily do a search for "ar 22 rifle reviews" and other such common key words for these type of rifles.

I have a Marlin .22LR model 60 Stainless Steel. This is Marlin's tube load rifle which holds approx 15 shots and 1 in the chamber. I removed the original wood stock and replaced it with a sleek all black tactical-style synthetic stock, telescopic bi-pod that also folds back out of the way, and a 3x9x32 scope with normal and illuminated crosshairs.

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(reply to post at 11:31:52 07/23/16)

Should be able to easily do a search for "ar 22 rifle reviews" and other such common key words for these type of rifles.

I have a Marlin .22LR model 60 Stainless Steel. This is Marlin's tube load rifle which holds approx 15 shots and 1 in the chamber. I removed the original wood stock and replaced it with a sleek all black tactical-style synthetic stock, telescopic bi-pod that also folds back out of the way, and a 3x9x32 scope with normal and illuminated crosshairs.

 
I'm still waiting for some one to explain what a TRUE assault rifle is!!!! Back in WW2 there was one assault rifle made and A Hitler did not like it so it saw very little actions and that is the only true assault rifle I have ever heard of.
So can you really explain what a TRUE assault rifle is and what defines it as being one I have yet to ever been able to find a true assault rifle and I do not mean what some one in the gov think is one I want to see a real true rifle that is termed as an assault weapon
 
I think the generally accepted term for a TRUE assault weapon include detachable magazine, full auto, semiauto and selectable fire.

What the press calls assault weapons do not meet that definition.

the M16 and AK47 do fit.

The AR styles are just that, styles. With the exception of a high capacity, detachable magazine they are not functionally different that a semiauto sporting rifle. Like a Remington 7400.

I appreciate good machine work, wood, polished blue (or stainless) guns and really dislike black plastic and stamped parts guns of any kind.

I know, they are utilitarian 'tools' but, I like mine to look and feel good.
 
Ah but a true automatic rifle or a select fire rifle can not be owned by the common man they have to have a FFL to own such a gun and they still do not really fit the term assault.
I know the SKS or the AK or the AR15 are not assault rifles never have been never can be other then in some ones mind that does not have a clue what, what is with gun let alone how to fire them.
Got a laugh when some one tried ot tell me this or that about a gun and they did not even have a clue how to load it or make it fire but yet they where telling me all about it
 
Less than 2% of the people killed by firearms in the US are killed by tactical weapons, tactical weapons are expensive and are for defense. Cheap, easily transportable and concealable pistols are what gangbangers use to do their public service of dispatching one another.
 
I'd like for you to define what a true assault rifle is. There was only one gun ever made tha twas in fact called an assault rifle and A Hitler did not like it so it saw very little action.
The AR15 or the SKS or the AK or for that matter any rifle that is full automatic or select fire both types of rifle take a FFL to own so please explain what the heck a TRUE assault rifle is not one of those thing some one looks at a picture and see what is not there. By the way NO semiautomatic rifle sold to the public is an assault rifle
 
I had one of those and sold it not long ago. It had a 30 round clip as well as 2 5 round clips but it is and never was an assault rifle. Ya it saw combat by U.S. troops but it is not an assault rifle
 
Yep and it was never mast produced because Hitler did not like it. It is the only rifle I have ever heard of that was in fact named an assault rifle. Sad how people that are suppose top be well educated can term something they know nothing about as an assault rifle just by looking at a picture
 
Neighbor keeps buying hand guns and telling all the great points about each and every one. Then he calls me to either break it down for cleaning or reassemble it. I've taken the Walther down and back a half dozen times for him.
 
Yep funny how some people think they know something but there actions tell you other wise. I collect a lot of manuals etc. I collect cook books tractor manuals and gun manuals lie the Firearms Assembly. It is the NRA guide to rifles and shot guns Also have a box that is full of Classic Firearms in cards. And a number of reloading manuals. One of the reloading manual I have is the Speer copyright 1966
 
My understanding is that in addition to the characteristics Ken Combs lists below, an assault rifle is supposed to fire an intermediate power cartridge---more powerful than a submachine gun/pistol cartridge, but less powerful than a battle rifle cartridge. By this definition, the 7.62x39, the 7.92x33, and the 5.56x45 all qualify as assault rifle cartridges.

Stan
 
Again all a fictitious definition of what a true assault weapon is. I guess what I am trying to point out is the term assault weapon was coined by someone in the Gov that did not have a clue what she was talking about
 
It is really does that and you do not have an FFL your illegally using it. But are you sure your not terming it correctly. A semiautomatic rifle only fire if you pull the trigger and keep pulling it. If it empty's the clip when you pull the trigger and hold it then it is full automatic and you have to have an FFL to own such a weapon
 
Technically all AK 47 will fire full auto, which means that the semi auto ones are a different model such as an AK 74. A person would have to Google all the different combinations made since it was designed in 1947.
 
I am not getting into any political discussions, but you can get a good regular rifle for a lot less than AR clone.
 
I don't know where you came up with this. Any individual can own a class 3 (machine gun) as long as they pay the $200 transfer tax, do the reams of paperwork and get the approval from ATF (usually takes 4 months).
 
It was as you say Old, a phrase coined by a section of people that cosmetic changes made to ranch rifles to make them sound unacceptable to the concentrated city population. For the most part it was successful to many more than just city people. It proves the point that if you say an untruth often enough it will seem to those that do not think it through to be true and be passed on as the truth and gain acceptance. Sad but it is just the way it is.
 
I used to think the same thing. Have some very fine "almost work of art" guns. I begrudgingly bought a Colt AR-15. It has since become my favorite "last to give up" gun. You take the other guns into the field and if you trip and drop it in the water, mud, on rocks or even bump it hard against a tree and its ruined or rusty. My AR can be dropped, immersed, muddied, or almost run over by my truck and it still works. Just wash it off with water and forget about it. I just keep the other guns to look at 'cause they're "pretty".
 
then you have to find a automatic weapon - an automatic M16 STARTS around $20,000 and as much as $50,000.
 
Guess you need to learn to read as I said to own a full automatic rifle you have to have an FFL which is the class 3 and you have to pay to have that and it is not a life time thing. What is the difference in saying you have to have an FFL or a class 3 FFL other then defining what FFL you have to have
 
Finally some one who understand what I am saying and the simple fact just having a large capacity mag or a plastic stock or a fast fire rater but yet semiautomatic does not and never will make it an assault rifle. Only one type was made and it was made in WW2 and Hitler did not like it so well there is NO TRUE ASSAULT rifle
 
Excuse me for being ignorant. What model rifle in WW2 was called an "Assault Rifle"? Not doubting anyone, just curious. I didn't know there was one! Thanks, Roy!
 
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Pay a high price in money plus put up with the gestapo visits, my oldest brother legally owned several full auto weapons for 20 odd years, over that 20 years he was audited by the IRS 3 or 4 times, his dairy farm was ''inspected'' by the ATF twice, he was denied a pilots license in Virginia and received special treatment each time he flew on an airplane.
 
The civilian version of the AK47 is a semiautomatic rifle but yes the military version is select fire but if he has one of those he does not own it in a legal way unless he has a class 3 FFL. As it is being a public forum he could have ATF knocking on his door by what he has said with out him having that FFL
 
I cannot spell it out since it is in German but it was a German rifle made for a short time during WW2 but A Hitler did not like it so it saw limited uses if any uses. Some one that answered one of my post said what it was but I can not remember how he spelled it
 
Shoot there are some many models of 22 that are semiautomatic tha tone could not list them all on this site with out leaving out a good many. The Ruger 10/22 is just one of many. My son has one that is a tube feed in semiautomatic. And there are many knock off AR15 look a likes tha tare in 22
 
Yep you hit to nail on the head and just goes to show how many educated people do not have a clue what is real and what is fictitious and again there is and was only one true assault rifle ever made
 
I'll take my SKS and your AR15 and I'll bet you my gun will fire when yours will misfire. Sorry many of our guys in Vietnam died due to the fact the M-16/AR15 would misfire due top being dirty but you can take the SKS and use and abuse it and do so over and over again and it will keep on firing.
 
Yep the more paper work you have to own a gun means the more times some one is going to ask you to many questions which get harder and harder to answer with out getting into some type of trouble. That is why I do not have a CCW. I do not want the paper work that goes with it. I am in hope that my state passes Constitutional carry then I do not need to paper work to carry
 
I would only consider an AR type .22LR if you truly liked the AR style or platform. I have 3 Ruger 10/22's and 2 Marlin 60's that are great rifles for plinking or dispatching vermin. I would probably buy an AR platform .22LR if I didn't already have so many others.

FYI,
You [b:001df8da21]do not[/b:001df8da21] need a class 3 license or any other FFL to own any class 3 NFA weapon or device ( suppressors, SBR/SBS, machine guns, "assault" rifles, sear or parts, etc). You only have to pay a one time $200 tax fee for each weapon or device, with some paper work of course. I have a suppressor and considered an SBR, so these are some things I have been through.
 
What a collection of useless responses.

Just to be clear, are you looking for an AR-15 style rifle in .22 RIMFIRE? Most ARs are .22 CALIBER, but centerfire (.223 Remington/5.56 NATO).

FWIW, with the (un)availability of .22 rimfire ammo, I'm not so sure I'd want to buy a rimfire rifle right now.
 
You're thinking of the M16s built under Robert McNamara's decree that had no chrome lined barrels (like the SKS has) and used the "not recommended-by-the-manufacturer" ball powder all in the name of saving a few bucks. BTW, if you own one of the early imported SKS rifles it may be one that still has the 'auto sear' installed. That means that by inserting (an approximately) 6 penny nail in the trigger oil hole and using it to operate the standard sear as a trigger instead of the standard sear you have a machine gun. I've seen it done and it works every time. If you own an SKS and a nail that means you are a machine gun owner.
 
The whole board has been on tenterhooks in breathless anticipation of your astute and sagacious input.
 
I have a 22 rimfire conversion bolt carrier group and magazine that I have shot several times. Works pretty good.Plus I get to shoot my AR-15 a lot cheaper!
 
To be honest most 22 rimfires that "look" like an AR 15 are usually an existing 22 model that's been altered for the looks (Mossberg and Ruger "22 ARs"). The Smith and Wesson M&P15-22 use a real AR 15 lower (I believe) but the upper is still a typical .22 rim fire blowback set up. You don't gain anything in terms of the operating system over any other reliable blow back .22 (like the Ruger 10-22 or the Marlin 795 or the Reminging 597). Although they do cost a lot more.

While the AR15 platform can be an extremely accurate rifle out of the box I've heard no such claims about the .22 clones.
 
I can buy 22 ammo all day long here in Missouri. Many gun shops have it on hand. Now 22mag well that is hard to find in my area
 
I have converted a 10-22 ruger. I love it folding stock and a front handle. With a hell fighter night scope. Is perfect for night critters. Just put dot on them and start pulling the trigger. Oh and a 30 round clip. Any rifle I buy in the future will look like a ar.
 
It's just a pet peeve of mine and many others but clips are very rarely used on any type of gun, magazines however are extremely popular. I have clips for my SKS that I can use but it has a detachable magazine, also have a few clips for a 8mm Mauser.

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"High capacity" has no meaning either. In fact it's nothing more than a subjective term derived from the thoughts of the individual who has made a decision as to what he/she thinks is 'high capacity'.

Too, an AK isn't an 'assault rifle' anymore than an AR15 is. Yes, there are full auto versions, but there are far more that are semi-auto, just like the Ar15. I fact I own 4 different AK's (one being a pistol) and a couple of AR's. They share the same safe with about 2 dozen other rifles and shotguns with synthetic as well as wooden stocks.....and I love them all.

That said, I have no problem with a single shot .22------a 5 shot mag fed .303 British I got from Dad-----a 7 shot tube fed 30-30 lever action----- a 10 shot clip loaded SKS---- a tube fed 12 shot Rossi .357 lever action-----the AR with a 30 round mag----or one of my AKs with a 75 round drum attached.

I've got them all, and then some....and they are all a lot of fun in their own right.
 
An AK47 and an AK74 are two different animals, and it has nothing to do with being semi-auto -vs- full auto.

The original was the AK47 (adopted in 1947) and it is typically chambered in 7.62x39. The AK74 was designed/adopted in 1974, and is chambered in 5.45x39. Just like an AR though, with a little ingenuity, either can be made to fire other calibers, with the right parts and modifications.

Beyond that, the only thing different between a full auto rifle, of either variety, and a semi auto is the third hole in the receiver that allows the use of a full auto sear in the FCG.

If you have a rifle that even has the third hole, it's considered by the ATF to be full auto 'machine gun' and is therefore illegal, without the tax stamp, and the proper paperwork to go with it.
 
Like any other class 3 item there is no FFL required to simply own one. The only thing necessary to own one is to pay for the tax stamp, and do the proper paperwork.

That said, to purchase one, or to sell one, you have to go through a Class 3 FFL to handle the transfer. If you want to know the exact way this works, ask Nails over at The Files. The man seems like he's a walking encyclopedia of gun laws.
 
I gave up on semiautomatic .22s because of poor accuracy and went back to bolt action or falling block action.
 
Those were the first rifle I ever shot. When I was a little kid I would ride with grandpa while oats were combined in the summer and on the weekends during corn harvest. My job was to open gates and climb in the gravity wagons and knock the remaining grain out of the corners. In between loads we would light firecrackers and target shoot with his 10/22. Those are my most cherished memories from my youth. His ruger was an earlier one from the sixties with a fairly low serial number, so it was 20 years old before I got to shoot it :). These are probably most of the reason I hold the opinions (right or wrong) that I do about such things. Hours of enjoyment, while teaching respect and safety for things. While I don't own or really even want some things under debate, my concern is the next step destroying things that I enjoyed so much with a loved one as a child. As a side note I bought one when I was old enough.
 
If you are talking about .22 LR then I would recommend the S&W M&P 15-22. I did a lot of research before I bought mine. It has a steel barrel, and is made very similar to 5.56/.223 AR's. All of the operations are the same, it breaks down the same, and feels the same just lighter. The barrel was the deciding factor. Colt, Sig, and a couple other AR looking .22 LR rifles are really made by Umerex. They have barrel inserts (Umerex specializes in making air guns). The M&P has a real solid steel barrel. Mine has proven to be very accurate using the right ammo (no shortage where I am). Of course asking a question like that on here is gonna get a million different opinions. Mostly it depends on exactly what you are looking to use it for. Hope my post helps.
 
I've let my 8 year old shoot my ruger 10/22 on quite a few occasions while under supervision. It is funny to watch, the first shot is pretty good, the next one is too, then they go downhill as he just starts pulling the trigger faster. To be a kid again and just enjoy burning powder for the sake of burning powder :). Thinking of getting them a cricket to slow up the process.
 
My mistake - the S&W 15-22 does not use a military spec lower. The only one that does that is CMMG that sells a complete 22lr for $550 that you can buy a .223 upper for that can be swapped back and forth.

Or you can buy any milspec AR15 and buy a .22 upper from Spikes Tactical (or CMMG) or you can buy a conversion kit that replaces the bolt and carrier and lets you shoot .22 LR through the same barrel you use for .223 rounds.
 
Something like so many tractor guys calling a battery ignition unit a distributor. I say take the distributor off of that magneto on a multi cylinder engine and see how good the engine runs.
 
Local Cabela's had 20 different brands and types of .22 lr today. And LoTS of it 10 different 22wmr to choose from.
 
Any idea where I would find one? Screens in s city is closest but they don't have much used. On line? I do know a local dealer that I should check with. What is the going rate of these?
 
My brother has the Mossberg 715T Its a lot of fun to shoot. its one of their successful .22lr guns with a pistol grip and AR styling with rails, adjustable stock and what not.

He's got a red dot on it right now that will hit a pie plate at 30ish yards. Its light, comfortable, easy to shoot, quiet, affordable to shoot, fairly accurate, pretty much everything you could ask for in a plinking or mild varmit control gun. He got his very lightly used with the red dot scope for around $200.
 
(quoted from post at 21:30:03 07/23/16) I agree with Jim! Also if there ever is any more successful gun control in this country assault type rifles would be the first to go, and I agree. Assault rifles never should of been allowed for civilian ownership in the first place.

Please define "assault rifle". There really is no such thing, it's a creation of the political Left, but I'm interested in what you think one is.

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WW2 .30 M2 carbine can be considered assault rifle, couple military manuals for recruits late 1990s had that example as part of definitions. M2 is selective fire, fires the .30 carbine round that is about 1000 foot pounds of energy and has the 30 round magazine available- but base model, not the folding stock Paratrooper model had regular buttstock, no pistol grip and no bayonet lug so under the 'cosmetic' definition of 'assault weapon' would fit. Sturmgewehr translated from German is definite about the selective automatic fire and mud range/mid power cartridge, third characteristic is the large capacity magazine- but didn't address the pistol grip, flash hider, bayonet lug issues directly.Submachine guns in service as MP40 had pistol grip, folding stock-but MP28s and the Italain MP38/42 had 'regular' wood stocks, British STEN gun mark 2s didn't have pistol grip- mark 4 did. US tompsons had pistol girips, Grease gun had retractable wire stock-- but H&R Riesing used as alternate weapon by Marines, Navy, Coast guard had a 'regular' stocked version- model 50? and a pistol gripped version-model55? British Navy Lancaster had 'regular' stock and brass fittings, was sort of copy of MP28 Bergman. Functionality is key to original definition of 'Sturmgewehr/Assualt Rifle', not the cosmetics. M2 functions. cartridge fit assualt Rifle definition while base model cosmetics don't fit the political 'assault weapon' definition. RN.
 
Actually an "Assault Rifle" has been defined for decades. An assault rifle is a selective-fire rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine. An "Assault Weapon" can mean anything.
 
M1 carbine doesn't have selective fire so not assault rifle. The M2 does have selective fire and is Class 3 under 1934/1938 federal laws, the Paratroop model has the pistol grip and under folding stock. M1 carbines sometime had the under folding metal tube folding stock/pistol grip also- some were sold surplus and advertised as back packer specials, California law seems to have been applied to some of them.
 
StG42 as 'MP42' as first version had a few development problems and Hitler had that one on his sort of unpopular list, proved very useful on Russian front and the StG44 was made in quantity since Army user change Hitler's mind, definitely made impression on Russians. VolksStrumGewher 45 was a gas retarded blowback self loader using magazine and cartridge- but not full auto capable- last ditch use by minimal trained conscript development- no pistol grip, regular stock but short barrel gets it to class 3. RN
 

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