RANT - Water quality, Thank you, EPA for thread down below

bjr

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I'm on a community system that comes from a well that feeds 70 lots (non profit association). We were told by the State People (EPA) that we had to drill a new well becuase of being over the Nitrate limit by 5 parts per million. It cost almost 2 Million dollars(the financing is a story on it's own) and nearly five years of paper shuffling to accomplish this. Out of the 70 lot owner there we only two individuals really pushing this. Now were we had to nearly triple the water rates to pay for this (a lot of retired people on fixed incomes here). Now with the new system, we have the bad gas smell like rotten eggs on some of the lots and those people complain vehemently. We get some sand and other sediments also. Our association is just that as we all own equal parts of this "mess". At the meetings people stand up a say "I'm paying for a service and I want clean water". I'm a board member so I remind them that they own as much of the sytem as anyone so I ask what are "they" going to do about it. No one wants to raise rates further for microfine system filtering. The EPA thru their wisdom made us trade one problem for another. I'm guessing the "High Efficiencey" and very expensive washing machines (that plugs up and quits working) were EPA approved. Now we're buying Highly filtered (as advertised on the label) bottled water to drink. Land values have taken a dive as peole are selling and moving out to live in a condominium somewhere that uses a municipal water supply. This is election year and I'd like to get rid of some of this great government oversite. bjr
 
Is it possible for you to let the water run continuously for several days to release that hydrogen sulfide? I did this for my boss at work and we let the water run for about 2 weeks and the hydrogen sulfide went away.
 
Did the state EPA tell you exactly where to drill and to what depth? Did you pay them 2 million to upgrade your system?

If the answer to both of those questions is "no", then your beef is with the contractors who drilled your new well and upgraded your system. If they haven't delivered what you paid for, take them to court. Stop blaming bureaucrats who are doing their job.
 
Hi bjr, that is typical of S***heads that are "in charge" of things, like the EPA,. These S-heads fly in, startle all the people, then make the people mad with their "One Size Fits All Stupid Rules," create more and bigger problems for the people, then they threaten the people with large fines and/or prison if the people dont obey, and then they fly out! Socialistic democracy at its best!!!

Government cannot fix things!!!

Government will increase your taxes and fees and ruin everything around you!!!

Good luck, bjr, to you and the community.

Scott
 
The EPA is out of control
If they could implement some of the laws they've suggested, there would be no cattle, due to excessive flatulence. There would be no tillage of dry soil, due to excessive dust - it would be illegal to drive down a dirt road in the summer as well. All waters within the US would be under the control of the government, navigable or not. And on and on it goes...
 
Over the last 20 years many cities and larger towns have installed reverse osmosis filtration systems to meet clean water standards without changing wells. Your community, your board or your contractor may have tried a cheaper shortcut that didn't deliver.
 
Bingo, Pete.

The EPA, especially the federales, is/are, indeed, out of control.

There is absolutely nothing that the federales will not eventually regulate.

Dean
 
QUOTE: I'd like to get rid of some of this great government oversite.

Yea, good luck with that. Once a government program is started, can it ever be shut down?
 
So it would be better for your community to drink bad water. Fricken government anyway!
 
I own a lot with a shared water system. We were made to upgrade are storage and replace old pipe. We formed a Metro district, and floated bonds. I now pay $1,485 and change for the year for the new system, plus $300 a year for the water i do not use. remember whiskey is for drinking and water is for fighting. phil,
 
No telling what is our water. Our doctor had the water tested and said it has a chlorine level higher than what is acceptable for a public pool. We can't drink it. Family has been buying bottled water for years.
 
Set your chlorine heavy drinking water in an open pitcher for an hour, by the end of that hour, all the chlorine will have evaporated from the water. It's only the closed water pipes under pressure that keeps the chlorine dissolved in your water, allow it to set in an open container for an hour and the chlorine will be gone, turned to gas and gone.


We eat often at a caf? in a nearby town, they serve heavily chlorinated tap water in a big 20 0z or larger glass. Take a sip immediately after the waitress sets it on the table and it tastes like bleach, ignore it for 15 minutes, then take a sip and the chlorine taste is gone, good tasting water..
 
Here in Michigan, water quality employees at the state's Department of Environment Quality thought they'd make the governor and legislature happy by sitting on their hands and not doing their jobs. Now they're facing criminal charges from the state's Attorney General because they sat on their hands and didn't do their jobs. There's just no satisfying everybody.

It sounds like your state EPA guys decided they would rather make you drill a well than go to jail themselves.
Employees charged in flint water crisis
 
Suing the well driller will get you exactly nowhere. They had to drill into a different aquifer, obviously, to get out of the perceived nitrate problem. Turns out the other aquifer is even worse. Certainly not the driller's fault, and not a judge in the land who would say he's liable, unless driller gets a total vegetable of a lawyer.
 
I installed our own Reverse Osmosis system for less than $200 from Costco, so now we have good water to drink. It also supplies the water for the ice maker so we have good ice cubes too. Those systems will last a long time. I found that I do not have to change the filters as often as recommended; our current system is going on 6 years old and haven't changed a filter yet. Where we used to live, I had to change every couple years as the water contained more impurities there.

I don't know if those systems work for everything, but we wouldn't be without our Reverse Osmosis. For the price, it is worth a try.

As has been previously discussed on this forum, removing that magnesium anode from the water heater and replacing it with an aluminum anode (available from Home Depot.com with free shipping to the nearest store) may solve an odor problem from the heated water. There are some things that a
homeowner can do to help themselves that might solve some of the problems with the water.
 
Understandable.

Government employees and elected officials always (Yes, "always" is an absolute, and I'm sure that you can find the extraordinarily rare exception....) concern themselves with their jobs above all else and regardless of the consequences.

Dean
 
5 ppm is actually quite high for health related water issues. Lead is measured in ppb. For a system that small, I would think there would have been a filtering option available for 2 million dollars.
 
Get a large tank with large vents at top pipe water in at top through a spray sys. then pipe water out out to customers. gets rid of rotten egg smell and allows sediment of particles. Thats how we used to do it in Florida.
 

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