(quoted from post at 17:17:55 05/21/16) What you say may be true, but it doesn't quite explain why there's currently an epidemic of mass shootings of relative strangers. There may be more spoiled, undisciplined kids and bullies than in the past, but there have always been some. Previously, it didn't seem to occur to them that it would be a good idea to go kill a random bunch of classmates and instructors, and then die in the process. Do you think that young males are getting spoiled to such an unprecedented degree that at some point, homicide/suicide is the next logical step? Seems far fetched to me.
Stan
Right to the point. No religious talk unless it is nnalert or some other protected religion.(quoted from post at 18:13:46 05/22/16)
Consider the following:
- Practically any attempt to discipline a child. particularly corporal punishment, is considered "child abuse" and therefore is not allowed.
-Any mention of religious values or right and wrong is considered "imposing your own morality on someone else" and therefore is not allowed.
-If you tell a kid "No!" or attempt to correct him in any way, or deprive him of anything he or she wants, you are "damaging his/her self esteem" and therefore this is not allowed.
What is the result of all this? A whole generation of self absorbed brats with no moral compass who see nothing wrong with picking up a gun and settling the score just because their feelings got hurt.
Sorry kids, but the real world doesn't work like that!
(quoted from post at 13:45:05 05/22/16) Bret, I agree with what you've said here, and I wouldn't normally argue about what might be seen as merely quibbling over details, but you're a thinking person, and typically quite careful about what you say, so it might be worthwhile to take this a little farther. Two points, really. First is that the number of mass shootings in the US is dependent on what is accepted to constitute a mass shooting: Number killed, including wounded as well as killed in the total, domestic violence, gang related, shootings incidental to the commission of a different crime, etc. The number can be represented as absurdly high if the definition is widened enough, or comfortingly low if narrowed enough. The second point is that events have emotional reality as well as statistical reality. Nobody is going to try to make the point that the approximately 3000 deaths caused by the events of 9-11 are no more significant than that same number killed in traffic accidents about every four weeks. Put another way, it wouldn't take as many nuclear weapons set off by terrorists in major cities as it would an increase in overdue library items to be viewed as an epidemic.
I'll agree that "epidemic of mass shootings" is an exaggeration in one sense, but by almost any definition you choose it used to be a statistically rare event in the US, and now it's not so much. That's the issue I'm talking about.
Stan
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