OT: Windows 10 self installed

Stan in Oly, WA

Well-known Member
This evening, my computer was sitting idle in sleep mode for a few hours. When I came into the room to use it, it was in the process of "Upgrading Windows". This wasn't the first time Microsoft has spontaneously provided me with system upgrades, but this looked different---and it took over an hour after I became aware of it. I told my wife that I wondered if Microsoft had crossed the line from continuously, aggressively offering free Windows 10 upgrades to simply installing it unasked. This turned out to be the case. At the end of the installation, I was welcomed to Windows 10, and asked to sign the legal agreement for it. I clicked on Decline. I was given one chance to change my mind, then the upgrade was uninstalled, and my previous version was reinstalled. My wife found information about how people have been having this happen. Tomorrow I'll have to spend some time learning how to rescind my consent allowing Microsoft to automatically install upgrades. From now on, I guess I'm going to have to go through offered upgrades, system fixes, etc. and individually choose the ones I want. I'm not pleased about this. I feel like I already spend more time than I would like being forced to deal with technology that doesn't interest me.

Stan
 
(quoted from post at 01:07:08 05/21/16) This evening, my computer was sitting idle in sleep mode for a few hours. When I came into the room to use it, it was in the process of "Upgrading Windows". This wasn't the first time Microsoft has spontaneously provided me with system upgrades, but this looked different---and it took over an hour after I became aware of it. I told my wife that I wondered if Microsoft had crossed the line from continuously, aggressively offering free Windows 10 upgrades to simply installing it unasked. This turned out to be the case. At the end of the installation, I was welcomed to Windows 10, and asked to sign the legal agreement for it. I clicked on Decline. I was given one chance to change my mind, then the upgrade was uninstalled, and my previous version was reinstalled. My wife found information about how people have been having this happen. Tomorrow I'll have to spend some time learning how to rescind my consent allowing Microsoft to automatically install upgrades. From now on, I guess I'm going to have to go through offered upgrades, system fixes, etc. and individually choose the ones I want. I'm not pleased about this. I feel like I already spend more time than I would like being forced to deal with technology that doesn't interest me.

Stan

Stan I agree with you that MS is crossing the line by installing automatically Windows 10. Many users of Windows simply do not know how to stop this aggressive marketing by MS. I am sure in the fine print somewhere its written they have a legal right to do this. In the end it takes away control by the individual.
 
They have the legal right to do this because the operator doesn't ever own any Microsoft software, just the "privilege" of using it.
 
Just had the same thing happen the other night. I had to get my step son to talk me through un-installing it.
He told me to go into my settings and turn off the automatic updates and it shouldn't happen again...
Yea, I was just slightly P**sed off. So far its all good for now...
 
Why are you all scared of 10? It takes the computer back to the traditional desktop setup instead of that silly tiles thing. You can still have the tiles if you want. The government already knows where you live and what color clothes you are wearing.
 
(quoted from post at 04:14:07 05/21/16) Why are you all scared of 10? It takes the computer back to the traditional desktop setup instead of that silly tiles thing. You can still have the tiles if you want. The government already knows where you live and what color clothes you are wearing.
Its not a question of being scared of windows 10....its about the right to decide myself if I want to "upgrade" to the new version. For those whose use windows 7, myself included, I am wondering why MS is offering this for free.
 
(quoted from post at 12:14:07 05/21/16) The government already knows what color clothes you are wearing.

You really should be specific Sprint ; the government knows exactly what colour your underpants are ! :)
 
Happened at work on a POS terminal. I just went thru the backout steps and then did this -

There is a 2 step process to stop Win10 from installing. First, you have to find the one update that originally placed that little box on the lower right screen and then uninstall it. Then you reboot. Lastly you go into update, refresh the list, and mark the upgrade to windows 10 item (in the optional upgrade list) to hidden. That mostly stops the process unless MS decides to release any more malicious updates.

I did not list the actual name of the update (KBxxxxxx) because it is better to google for this and find a complete set of instructions than have me try to walk you through it here.

John
 
Been having the same thing on mine. I happened to catch it one time when I had the computer on and it said it was updating windows to number 10. I stopped it and rescheduled it to a time, when I know Im on the computer. I havent decided yet on it. Ive heard they removed Windows Media Player and you can purchase it separately. Sure enough they will end older versions in the near future and force it on you. Ive heard mixed reviews.
 
Yep, me too. I turned on my computer and had a message, "Unable to connect to the internet". Well, I use my phone as a Hot Spot, so it didn't update. Besides that, the download would eat up more data than my monthly limit would be. That would have been expensive.
 
On one of my computers, I did the free upgrade from Windows 8.1 to 10. From that time, the computer has a mind of it's own. The screen will go black and all functions quit, including the power button. If I pull the plug and restart it, all my desktop icons have shifted to the left of the screen. I have found that if I cut the power quick enough for only a second or two, it will save the icon view but I still lose any data I have been working on but not saved. I was told by a tech for a completely different company that they had that issue on all their computers. Microsoft told them they had to download an install file and all would be fine. What Microsoft forgot was this install program resets the computer to new status, deleting all added programs and files not provided by Microsoft on a new computer. You lose all your files, pictures, everything. Great fix!

But they will bad mouth the virus or whatever that will lock up your computer and hold it for ransom.
 
My desktop was also "automatically" updated a few nights ago. I have been using Windows 10 for a few days. Although it is different, and cumbersome, I've pretty well figured out the basics and have restored most of the defaults that I had before. It is painful, but I think that I'll survive the changes.

Tom in TN
 
Tom from Buckeye Lake,

I only have 3gbs and the down load cost me $170.00 after Bell gave me $25.00 off twice.
Can you believe Bell didn't know what caused the huge overage, At one point the down load didn't take so it was down loaded again and again, as I told Bell my computer can not burn 2000mb in one second.

That blog pops up for me to accept 10, why doesn't the ad blocker stop it.
There is $$ More $$ money to be made, I expect one day it to accept it for me.
 
There is no reason to allow M$ to apply updates to your computer without your consent. You can turn that off!!! You can also fix it to where only updates that you specifically approve of will be applies.
 
chuck2015,

"I am wondering why MS is offering this for free."

Every thing will cost you from Open office, some up grades,
Windows Media Player, maybe even the MS10 updates every YEAR.
It could end up being a yearly fee like some virus protectors
In the long list of "I agree to" we have no idea what it really means.
 
(quoted from post at 07:01:35 05/21/16) chuck2015,

"I am wondering why MS is offering this for free."

Every thing will cost you from Open office, some up grades,
Windows Media Player, maybe even the MS10 updates every YEAR.
It could end up being a yearly fee like some virus protectors
In the long list of "I agree to" we have no idea what it really means.
i agree!
 

ms 10... allows microsoft to position the user to be able to buy more products from them.. The have their store set up... they also can slip in some advertising that everyone else is doing and get some revenue off of it.


But... overall, its a good system. much better than 8 and a little better than 7.

You CAN...... turn off most of the crap if you bother to learn a bit about computers. And yes.. by default.. it will have screen savers turn on... and sleep mode and power savings modes turned on by default. If you down know what these are and dont know how to simply turn them off, then that is YOUR problem, not microsoft.

Also going in and out of sleep mode can cause problems on some computers as they dont properly re-initlize the usb ports upon waking up. That also,,,usually can be fixed in the device power settings on most computers.

Microsoft is trying hard to move everyone to one platform as its getting harder and harder to keep fighting the virus and malware hitting all the different operating systems. If dont dont upgrade, soon you will have a system no longer supported and possible full of malware.

Microsoft has even supplied free virus programs if users are smart enough to install them and yes... keep the updates running.
 
Yeah, this Windows 8-10 thing is a fiasco. My computer locks up anytime it feels like it on Windows 10, also. Can't even reboot. Have to let the battery completely discharge before I can reboot. My computer tech explanation of how he was going to block the snoop functions of Windows 10 wasn't particularly comforting either. Definitely saving money to buy a new computer with a Linux system. Still not sure how much of this crap is Windows and how much is HP, but I've had enough. The next confuser will not be a windows system and will not be an HP. It's just a matter of scraping up enough pesos to make the switch.
 
(quoted from post at 07:32:22 05/21/16) Yeah, this Windows 8-10 thing is a fiasco. My computer locks up anytime it feels like it on Windows 10, also. Can't even reboot. Have to let the battery completely discharge before I can reboot. My computer tech explanation of how he was going to block the snoop functions of Windows 10 wasn't particularly comforting either. Definitely saving money to buy a new computer with a Linux system. Still not sure how much of this crap is Windows and how much is HP, but I've had enough. The next confuser will not be a windows system and will not be an HP. It's just a matter of scraping up enough pesos to make the switch.
Why not reformat the drive and install your favorite version of Linux? Take a look at distro watch dot com.
 
(quoted from post at 07:27:55 05/21/16)
ms 10... allows microsoft to position the user to be able to buy more products from them.. The have their store set up... they also can slip in some advertising that everyone else is doing and get some revenue off of it.


But... overall, its a good system. much better than 8 and a little better than 7.

You CAN...... turn off most of the crap if you bother to learn a bit about computers. And yes.. by default.. it will have screen savers turn on... and sleep mode and power savings modes turned on by default. If you down know what these are and dont know how to simply turn them off, then that is YOUR problem, not microsoft.

Also going in and out of sleep mode can cause problems on some computers as they dont properly re-initlize the usb ports upon waking up. That also,,,usually can be fixed in the device power settings on most computers.

Microsoft is trying hard to move everyone to one platform as its getting harder and harder to keep fighting the virus and malware hitting all the different operating systems. If dont dont upgrade, soon you will have a system no longer supported and possible full of malware.

Microsoft has even supplied free virus programs if users are smart enough to install them and yes... keep the updates running.
Why should I have to be on guard to fend off the marketing efforts of MS when i do not need to right now. I disagree win 10 is better than win 7.
 
Same thing happened to me this morning. Took almost two hours then when I didn't sign up it reinstalled eight.
 
I had been getting daily prompts to install Windows 10. I didn't want to fool with it - let sleeping dogs lie, is my motto. I called the kids at Staples, who have always given me good advice, and they said to let it install. They said it was more secure, and several other meaningless (to me) positives, so I gave it the go ahead. I'm learning it - it's not too difficult, just different.
 
Only problem with Win 10 around here is most people have satellite Internet with a 10GB cap, the update and many of the future updates blow through most of that in no time. I don't use Windows, I wish they would adopt the Linux update style, much more flexible and less intrusive.

Program to stop Win 10 upgrade. (safe)
https://www.grc.com/never10.htm

Program to stop most of the "spying" if you do upgrade.
https://www.safer-networking.org/spybot-anti-beacon/

Article about it.
http://www.computerworld.com/article/3070460/windows-pcs/microsoft-makes-final-aggressive-windows-10-upgrade-push.html
 
I left my computer on sleep last night when I went out for a few hours. When I got home and opened it again I saw a message that my Windows 10 upgrade was 60 percent complete. I stopped it. I still can't decide from the comments here whether I should go ahead and accept or not.
 
Bingo, Sprint.

I avoided Widows 8 like the plague even though I was running Vista.

In February I bought a new computer with Windows 10. The changeover was seamless and painless.

Eventually, MS will stop supporting Windows 8, Windows 7, etc., like they have Vista etc. That MS is offering free upgrades to the latest version , whatever it is, is commendable rather than devious. Unlike times past, you need buy neither new computer or operating system software.

Those of you who do not want the upgrade should turn off automatic upgrades. Of course, you will no longer receive security upgrades, definition updates for Windows Defender, MS Security Essentials, etc.

Dean
 
Microsoft has been pushing 10 with nagware but in some cases they have scheduled unrequested upgrades. I got on Bob Rankin's email list. He gives a lot of good common sense advice and recommends 10 for a lot of reasons. I'm going to try it for a while and see. Go to the Rankin File, he gave a way to go back to your old system if you don't like 10. I just wonder why they're so eager to give it away.
 
How did you manage to stop it while the installation was in progress? I didn't see a way to do so, and I was concerned about what would happen if I stopped an operating system replacement without knowing the current status of the previous operating system. I felt lucky to be given the opportunity to decline the upgrade, and get my old operating system back, but there was a point at which I had no idea how much trouble it was going to be to get the situation resolved how I wanted it rather than how Microsoft wanted it.

Stan
 
Thanks for the heads up. As to why Microsoft is so eager to give away Windows 10, I've only got this to say: If there is a single instance of Microsoft putting the wishes, needs, or well being of its customers ahead of its own desire to rule the universe, I haven't heard about it.

Stan
 
"I just wonder why they're so eager to give it away."
Microsoft wouldn't give away a used prophylactic. My wife and daughter are in the computer programming sector. In the end, NOTHING is given away for free.
 
Earlier this week I downloaded Windows 10 onto my computer which had Windows 8.1 on it. No problems with 8.1 but might as well get my free upgrade before it becomes expensive. I see no difference and from my point of view, no big deal. From all of the criticisms I read on this forum about 10, it sounds like folks are taking this as a personal threat and fear the worst. Try it, you'll be good to go until your computer wears out.
 
I'm no techie; I simply turned the computer off. When I got back on I saw no smoke, ashes or missing pieces, so I'm assuming I'm OK. (Foreboding music begins.....)
 
My laptop just made the upgrade. Thanks for the tip, I also declined and went back to Windows 7. It might be in my head, but I think it's working better now...
 
MS pushed 10 out there to apologize for 8. Basically, the same as the bad reaction to Vista. People do hate change and many
are happy with what they have, but software and hardware does change as do stability and security requirements every so many
years. I might have had my first car for 11 years but this type of technology cannot stand still, just like GPS and cell
phones.
 
I have an 8.1 laptop updated to 10. The update was painless and the laptop runs much better. I have another laptop running 7 which I intend to update once I make Windows 7 system disks. Don't know what all of the hubbub is about. I have bigger issues when I install ios upgrades on my Ipad. There are usually always problems afterwards. Thinking about dumping it and getting an Android notepad.
 
Bingo, Gambles.

It's a business decision.

The sooner that they can stop supporting earlier versions of Windows, the sooner they can avoid the costs that such support involves.

Dean
 
I am currently on a Dell computer running Windows 8.1. The program is junk on a piece of crap hardware made by Dell. I DO NOT want changes made to my computer. THEY NEVER benefit ME. MS wants to sell you everything that was included in older OP systems. What they have done is made my internet hook computer USELESS other than as an Internet portal. I have my business and record keeping programs on a computer that is not hooked to the internet ever.

What their changing things has done to me is that I DON"T use 10% of the "NEW" features on the operating system. Plus when they want me to BUY a new program that was included on my older systems I decline and use some other program. I make darn sure it is not MS owned/designed. Do not tell me to get an APPLE or use LUCAS or some such other thing. I just want my system/computer to keep doing what it currently does without an issue. I do not NEED or WANT 99% of the new crap they think is needed on the new computers and OP systems.

So here is my current PLAN. I will never own another computer that has the name "DELL" on it or even involved with it. I am not BUY any OP system other than the one I am currently using on this computer. I do not need the extra features so they can sell them to the younger folks that think they can't live without a "SMART" phone. Just one small problem for MS. I can buy and pay for new stuff. So POing me just makes my money not be spent with your company.
 
You can go to all programs and open Windows Update and
in the settings set it to ask permission to install updates or
turn them off completely. You can turn them back on August 1st.
 
DO NOT SHUT OFF the computer if it starts to install Win10. That is russian roulette. If it happens to be updating the kernel or a boot related area, it will not recover. Let it finish, then decline the EULA (license message). It will then put it back to the prior system. If you happened to accept it, you have 30 days to revert back to the prior system. You can google on how to move it back. It is easy and painless.

John
 
You probably asked for the install and didn't know it. They get real sneaky with their offers. You think you are declining when you are asking for it. I managed to accidentally click for the install and had to get my son to stop it. For a while I was pestered with a popup trying to give me windows 10. They gave you an option of install or install later. There was no button to tell them to shove it.
 
Thanks. Now I've done that. I changed the setting to "Download Upgrades Automatically But Get Permission to Install". I'll see how that goes.

Stan
 
They did a sneak attack on me and replaced 8.5 with Rel.10. Iam not impressed with it and immediately disabled all the spy addons (Cortana) and apps. I still have my flip phone and satisfied with it. I freed up memory doing this.
 

All I know about Windows 10 is that two different friends of ours got it and lost all their stuff.
We've been getting all the pop ups about adding it, including the ones that want to install it automatically. So far we've been successful in avoiding that.
 
(quoted from post at 20:53:48 05/22/16)
All I know about Windows 10 is that two different friends of ours got it and lost all their stuff.
We've been getting all the pop ups about adding it, including the ones that want to install it automatically. So far we've been successful in avoiding that.
yself, I monitor big businesses who employ 10s of thousands of people on computers & they are still running WIN7. Now when the bugs are out & they feel safe in going to WIN10, then so will I.
 
This laptop was on XP until about a year ago. I didn't like the previews I had of Windows 7 or 8.1, so I installed Ubuntu 14.04LTS. Sometimes I have trouble finding a file I am looking for, but No "Windows" problems yet. I really like it so far.
 
(quoted from post at 12:18:20 05/22/16) They did a sneak attack on me and replaced 8.5 with Rel.10. Iam not impressed with it and immediately disabled all the spy addons (Cortana) and apps. I still have my flip phone and satisfied with it. I freed up memory doing this.
If MS had not started to force this down the throat of windows users i might fell better about adopting it. I just do not like being the way they are doing this.
 

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