Opinions please on new PTO generator

Dean Olson · Apr 28, 2016

I'm in the market for about a 15kw PTO generator.
What's the best brand?

Greg_Ky · Apr 28, 2016

Poke the link.
Poke here.

David G · Apr 28, 2016

I would by a Winco

JMS/.MN · Apr 29, 2016

I"ve had a 25/45 kw Winpower since 1977. Never a repair. Winpower is now Winco.

RMinVa · Apr 29, 2016

I have a voltmaster I bought in 1998. 12/15 kw. No problems with it. Have run it for days 24 hours a day. I just bought the unit and I built the 3 point frame and used a pto shaft I already had. I'd buy another if this one failed. I'd hate to be without one.

I keep it in front of the shed and can hook up and be running in minutes.

Billy Shafer · Apr 29, 2016

I have been in the generator business since 1968.I would go with Winco. They have been around for years and build a very good product. What ever you buy. Stay away from Generac unless you like throwing money away.

coonie minnie · Apr 29, 2016

Katolight and Winco are both good brands. HAve had a Katolight since 1976. Lots of use, no maintenance other than greasing the PTO.

Mike M · Apr 29, 2016

Try and find one that the generator runs at only 1800 instead of 3600 ! We have a 540 pto unit that gears up to 3600 and that thing sure is NOISY !

Billy Shafer · Apr 29, 2016

Don't see them much around here. But yes Katolight is another good product.

brutus49DC · Apr 29, 2016

if you want it to last don't run it with a 2cyl. jd, they have killed several generators due to uneven pto speed

jeffcat · Apr 29, 2016

Not quite. Winco bought out Winpower. I have a 2.2k Winpower form 1956 and is in mint condition. Small but weighs a ton!

Married2Allis · Apr 29, 2016

Winco 15kw is a good one. Has a 60 amp 240v outlet, brushless, requires 30 hp, $2200. If you only need 50 amps/240v get a Northstar 13kw for about $700 less.

big jt · Apr 29, 2016

I agree with the others on Winco. We have had one since the 70's, ran it with a JD A and the only problems we have ever had was the diode bridge. Not a real expensive part so we keep a spare on hand.

I would suggest putting a want ad in your local penny saver and or Farm Bureau Spokesman. There are used ones around and it has been years since I hooked mine up due to an outage. REC is more dependable than when most of these were sold new.

jt

Dusty MI · Apr 29, 2016

If you have a tractor that has both 540 and 1000 PTO, and the it has enough HP, hook the generator to the 1000 rpm then idle your tractor down to where the 1000 rpm is putting out 540 rpm.

Dusty MI · Apr 29, 2016

If you have a tractor that has both 540 and 1000 PTO, and the it has enough HP, hook the generator to the 1000 rpm then idle your tractor down to where the 1000 rpm is putting out 540 rpm.

buickanddeere · Apr 29, 2016

(quoted from post at 22:03:16 04/28/16) I'm in the market for about a 15kw PTO generator.
What's the best brand?

What loads are intended to be operated ? What model of tractor driving the generator ? Type of connection to the distribution panel ?

Dean Olson · Apr 29, 2016

I live just outside Houston TX. Our power supply is very consistent until a storm comes through, and unless it's a full blown hurricane, it's back on the same day. This generator
will be mounted on a 2-3ph platform or trailer that will allow me to run a welder & power tools for remote projects or plug into one of 3 panels as needed.

15kw will run my house, office, and water well. House , office and water well are all at different locations. Water well would just need to be run long enough to get stock tanks
filled. Office would probably not need power. In the event of a hurricane I'm far enough inland not to worry about damage or having to evacuate. I do however want AC and to
keep my freezer from thawing out.

I'll have my electrician wire each panel with the appropriate transfer switch and receptacles.

I have a newer JD 5103 50hp diesel, & Farmall's 2 SC's, 2 SH's and a 350. The SC's are probably a little light on hp. All the rest should run it fine.

Billy Shafer · Apr 29, 2016

I am up here in Centerville. How are you on flooding down there. High enough up so it wont be a problem.

Dean Olson · Apr 29, 2016

No issues for me. I have about 1700' of Jones Creek across the back of my property. It hit a record high for me but I would need 5'6" more rise to get in my house or shop.

WGM · Apr 30, 2016

Didn't realize Generac made a PTO generator.

Bob Bancroft · Apr 30, 2016

I find that although the governors on my old gas tractors are very responsive, they are not nearly as precise at holding speed/voltage as a diesel, as the load changes.

Billy Shafer · Apr 30, 2016

Just checked. Looks like they are no longer in the PTO field.

buickanddeere · Apr 30, 2016

Just checking . There are many generator owners that add up all the running amps and total 38.0 for example . They go out and purchase a 40 amp generator and wonder why motors won't start and the breaker trips.

David G · Apr 30, 2016

Winco has a 25kW unit for $500 more, but I looked up the specs on that tractor, I think you are good with the 15kW unit.

buickanddeere · Apr 30, 2016

(quoted from post at 19:01:45 04/29/16) If you have a tractor that has both 540 and 1000 PTO, and the it has enough HP, hook the generator to the 1000 rpm then idle your tractor down to where the 1000 rpm is putting out 540 rpm.

For those of you who don't know any better. The 540rpm machine on an idled down 1000rpm pto is saving nothing and is making trouble . Unless you have a 150HP tractor spinning 40HP of generator load. And operating for weeks at a time . Eg a steady loaded and under sizes irrigation pump with a grossly over sized tractor .
There are some people out there that think an engine will blowup if operated at rates rpms.
There is no measurable difference in wear and tear or fuel consumption for a couple of days at most per year.
When loaded down the power transmission will be rougher with fewer but larger pulses.
The govenor response will be slower and less effective . Some Motors that would have started with the tractor at rated rpm will not start due to the reduced reserve of the idled down 1000rpm tractor . Anybody smell smoke or want to keep resetting that breaker .
A turbo engine at half of rated rpms will not spin the turbine up to enough speed to build full boost when the engine is loaded.
The engine operating at half rpm and loaded will tend to over heat as cooling air flow is reduced .
Added bonous . You won't have an opportunity to see how bright the lights become and how fast the motors spin. When the 540rpm generator is operated at 1000rpm . When somebody forgets or doesn't know the engine is not supposed to be operated at pto rpm.

Billy Shafer · Apr 30, 2016

Most of my service calls were just for that reason. People buy for the running load. Don't seem to understand about surge loads. I tell people to get
at least 10KW more than you need.

centash · Apr 30, 2016

You are exactly right! It could harm both tractor and generator over time. There is a
reason why it's called " rated speed" Ben

scott6143 · May 1, 2016

I bought a 15KW Winco in 2007 and haven't had a single problem with it. I mostly use my Farmall 300 to run it, when my dad borrowed it he ran it on a New Holland TC-40. It is a great generator, I mounted it on a 3pt. carry all I bought from TSC and put some short legs on it so the PTO is perfectly level with it setting on the ground.

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