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Security: chain or cable?

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JML755

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I've got my Ford 3600 chained to a fence with an "ultra" security chain (square link, hardened through). I use a 1/2" cable strung through equipment that I keep in my garage. Stuff that would be attractive and easy to get rid of: snow blower, generator, power washer, etc. I figure if someone breaks in, bolt cutters will struggle with the cable. If they have a portable grinder, they'll get through it but I believe most thieves are druggies or scrappers looking for a quick grab.

I've got a bunch of 3 pt implements that I don't bother to secure as it would be a major PITA to steal them.

Just curious what you guys who also secure your equipment use: chain or cable?
 
Not trying to burst your bubble but would bolt cutters not make quick work out of the padlock I am guessing is at the end of your steel cable?
 
(quoted from post at 16:08:44 11/16/15) I've got my Ford 3600 chained to a fence with an "ultra" security chain (square link, hardened through). I use a 1/2" cable strung through equipment that I keep in my garage. Stuff that would be attractive and easy to get rid of: snow blower, generator, power washer, etc. I figure if someone breaks in, bolt cutters will struggle with the cable. If they have a portable grinder, they'll get through it but I believe most thieves are druggies or scrappers looking for a quick grab.

I've got a bunch of 3 pt implements that I don't bother to secure as it would be a major PITA to steal them.

Just curious what you guys who also secure your equipment use: chain or cable?
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e sure to chain/cable your oxy/acetylene torch, too. hey, hey, hey. :)
 
(quoted from post at 11:18:27 11/16/15) Not trying to burst your bubble but would bolt cutters not make quick work out of the padlock I am guessing is at the end of your steel cable?
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I have a hardened "high security" padlock on it.
 
It may not be quite that simple. I once had to remove a disk lock to open an abandoned storage unit. The door's narrow hasp did not cover enough of the lock's shackle to prevent me from getting at it with bolt cutters. It probably wasn't a top of the line lock because people don't usually spend much time considering the quality of their security system components until after they've been robbed. At the time, I didn't know about cutting disks on angle grinders, which will work if you can get at any of the shackle. Any padlock and chain/cable arrangement is only going to thwart thieves of opportunity---those who have no tools and only steal what they can pick up and carry away---just as the typical lockset on a house's front or back door is only going to stop burglars who look for unlocked doors or windows to enter a building. No security system will foil the most skillful and determined thief, or so the movies would have us believe. But skillful and determined people often find less dangerous, more lucrative ways to steal.

Stan
 
Someone's usually here and if we aren't Amos and the boys are. gm
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Several break-ins to pole type shops around here have been on the back side of the building- simply unscrew one sheet metal panel, and you're in. Don't even need to unscrew the whole panel- just go up as high as you can reach, and you can bend it out at the bottom enough to wiggle through. Especially if you're a skinny meth-head.
 
Ive been laughed at for "securing" rake, baler etc. when parked in a field Im working in. I have made lynch pins with larger holes to take a lock. Yes if they want it bad enough they will get it but they just cant come in and hook up and go.. Will take some work and time. Use to go to auctions and come back and find receiver hitch on truck was taken. So lock it also. Also have a ball lock for trailer too.. maybe false piece of mind but havent had anthing removed yet...
 
with scrap price being as low as it is maybe we just have to worry about the thief's out for the equipment itself. Bill
 
On my 2600 Ford I have been lifting a wire to the solenoid coil as well as disabling the stop knob to the fuel pump. The steering wheel can always be cranked over to either end prior to disabling the fuel and electric system. Real thieves don't want to spend lots of time , they like smash and grap.
 
(quoted from post at 13:36:07 11/16/15) Better be a serious fence to hold back a
tractor
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It's run around a corner post cemented in the ground of a 6' high chain link fence. Guess they could cut the post down near where the chain is looped, but if they've got a grinder, might as well cut the chain itself. But if they think they're going to pull that post out.....well, think again. I've got plenty of experience trying to pull stumps with that machine to know that won't happen. Actually, that gives me an idea: Hook a long chain to a stump or post high on the tractor axle just underneath the seat and HOPE the thief tries to pull it out. :wink:

I know nothing is foolproof, I would just want to make it hard enough so a thief will skip it and go find something that ISN'T secured to steal.
 
I used to have a big German Shepard mix shop dog . He stayed in shop at night. Pretty intimedating dog . Had a fire inspection one time. Fireman asked what they should do if there was a fire and the dog being in there ? I looked at him and told him if I was not there and they had to get in they had better just shoot the dog . Boy his eyes got big ! lol Word sure traveled fast around town . Dog was not mean at all though .
 
I guess there is one upside to scrap iron prices going in the toilet,some things no longer have to be locked up..
 
I had a receiver hitch stolen during a fifteen minute stop at the local high school. Put a bolt through it with a nylock nut on it. I've always got wrenches but I can't always find a key. I don't remove it very often anyway.
 

I have done the same , a cat8 bolt, nylock and drilled it to take a split pin or R clip as well just in case . Never had one stolen since .
 
A lot of cordless tools are used to steal catalytic converters. Chain or cable isn't the issue,
the weakest link is, the padlock can easily be cut off or knocked off with a hammer. Your efforts
will only slow down the determined.

I wish there was a cheap GPS locator we could attach to the expensive toys we want to protect.
 
How long will it take to cut your high security" padlock with a cordless right angle grinder with a
cutoff wheel?
 
(quoted from post at 09:14:29 11/17/15) How long will it take to cut your high security" padlock with a cordless right angle grinder with a
cutoff wheel?
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From what I've seen on the videos, somewhat longer than a regular lock and non-hardened chain. I understand that nothing is foolproof, but my original post was to see whether guys on this forum used wire rope of a decent size or chains to secure their stuff. Another thing I've done is to park and position stuff so it's kind of intertwined and hard to get at the more expensive and more attractive equipment. Also keep it out of plain sight from the road.
 
Insurance.

Nothing short of 24 hr armed guard is better.

With the advent of 18+v hand angle grinder, or 32" bolt cutters, or a gas pony bottle set that is no bigger than a couple soda bottles, nothing is safe. All 3 of those tools fit together in a paper grocery Sack. I've yet to find a chain or cable withstand more than 30 seconds of smoke wrench. Ditto on the bat powered angle grinder with a thin cut blade.
 

When parked away from the home place I usually take the key out of the switch and put it under a cover. I left my Ford 6.0 parked overnight two nights at an away farm with the key in the ignition. But no luck, it was still there when I got back.
 
I secure my stuff inside a pole barn or garage which are wired with alarms. Never leave anything outside.
 
I have two tractors I leave at an unattended building. Meaning no one lives near by. I pull the rotor, key and run a chain with big lock, through the rear tires. I also drive thought the yard twice a day. I did have a bunch of small stuff come up missing there though. Lincoln 225, power painter, shovels, three ladders. I now think its my own fault for trusting people.
I have a gut feeling where they are but I know if I go look, I'll end up in jail.
 
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