Winch Ideas

Anonymous-0 · Dec 29, 2008

I'm sitting at the computer tonight (this morning) waiting for the wash machine to finish its cycle so I can flip my work clothes in the dryer and go to bed. While I enjoy fabrication very much, I have never done any serious projects.

Question: Could a winch (if that's what you'd call it) from a barn cleaner be converted to a winch to be used on a flatbed tandem trailer? I figure I'd power it with a Briggs engine. If so, what all modifications would be necessary to set this thing up?

I have a trailer, but currently only have a come-a-long for a winch. My brother's got an old Patz winch which was from a small cleaner. It's not terribly heavy duty and seems it could make a nice trailer winch.

I appreciate your responses.

Glenn F.

Anonymous-0 · Dec 29, 2008

Up early this morning. If the barn cleaner winch would not work so well, how about a transmission/worm gear from a smaller old manure spreader or a self-unloading wagon? I'd have to look closely at these old components, but it sure seems something pretty slick could be made. I'm not sure how reverse would be attained.

I'd love to hear of your home made winches, what you used, etc.

Glenn F.

timcasbolt · Dec 29, 2008

Here is a link to a winch I built a while back. Perhaps it will give you some ideas. http://www.machinebuilders.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2012&PN=2

Mike M · Dec 29, 2008

I bought an Army Surplus winch. It has a lever to engage it and a standard size shaft on the input. I bought a 5 hp B&S engine with a reduction unit and it was easy to mount on the front of the trailer and align the shafts and hook them with a lovejoy coupler.
To pull a bigger tractor like a 720 D JD you have to use the snatch block or else the engine will stall out.
I kinda wish I'd of used hyd. off the dump truck or a seperate pump hooked to the motor or just went ahead and bought an electric winch because once mine is locked in gear you can't get it out ! You have to kill the engine for a shut off which is fine but if what your pulling gets stuck like on the ramps or frame you are jambed up. This is where a reverse or at least some way to disengage it would be nice. I had to kick my lever out of gear once and thought the lever was going to break first.
The B $ S has been reliable and starts good. Haveing been used VERY little and only with occasional gas changes and stabil added.

Kentb of SWMO · Dec 29, 2008

I have built a couple of electric winches. For gear boxes I use the worm drives from junk gear-head electric motors. For power I used Chrysler gear reduction starters. They are the easiest to reverse electrically. The one under my grain tuck I have used to remove the engine from my combined for repairs, remove/replaced the engine from three Cab-over Firetrucks. Contact me with your E-mail address and I can send you some pictures.

Kent

Anonymous-0 · Dec 29, 2008

Not sure what you mean by a winch from a barn cleaner, but silo unloader winches work well. They could stay hand powered, or motorized with hydraulics or a starter motor. Worm gear drive from a silage wagon would also work, since a typical load is 5 tons or more.

johndeereman · Dec 30, 2008

this just reminds me of a neighbors hay elevater he didnt have electric at all his barns so he put a chrysler v-6 with a 4 speed trany on it to power could really fling the old square bales lol

schriffs · Jan 3, 2009

You could use a belt drive from the engine to your worm gear drive, with one belt to drive forward and another belt with a half twist to give you reverse, with a lever to tighten one or the other. Otherwise, drive from the inside of the belt for one direction and run from the outside of the belt for the other, like some water pump/fan drives on cars with flat belts.

Coburn · Nov 12, 2015

When you speak of the Christler starter for winch use how exactly do you reverse the rotation? Like what would I physically do to a starter to get it to turn in both directions? I read on this site or another that several Ford solenoids are needed. I hope to get around this by making a heavy reverse polarity switch. I just don't understand if you are saying that simply reversing polarity will work or if the brushes somehow need polarity swapped. If so could you explain how exactly you do the operation. I can get to the brushes but not sure how to rewire from that point.

Coburn · Nov 12, 2015

(quoted from post at 09:02:13 12/29/08) I have built a couple of electric winches. For gear boxes I use the worm drives from junk gear-head electric motors. For power I used Chrysler gear reduction starters. They are the easiest to reverse electrically. The one under my grain tuck I have used to remove the engine from my combined for repairs, remove/replaced the engine from three Cab-over Firetrucks. Contact me with your E-mail address and I can send you some pictures.

How exactly do you get the Mopar starter to run in reverse?

ObsoElitist · Nov 13, 2015

If you are building a winch for fun, go for it. If your time is valuable, Harbor Fright's larger winches are cheap, and of surprisingly good quality.

rustyfarmall · Nov 13, 2015

I have a winch that came off of an elevator. The kind that we used to have for putting hay bales up in the barn or ear corn into the crib. I think it came off of a John Deere. I built a bracket and mounted it on my trailer. I didn't have the original handle for it, so I built one. Takes about 20 turns of the crank to get one revolution on the drum, so it takes a whole lot of cranking. I had ideas about adapting an electric starter motor to it, but never got that done. Found a small electric winch at an auction and installed it instead.

The elevator winch did work quite well though.

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