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midwesternhayfarmer

09-10-2015 17:51:12




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Bought three, Kidde, 240HD fire extinguishers eight years ago when I built my new pole building. They are 8# 15oz. Gross weight. Just noticed that two, have lost their charge and gage is in the red. Have another at home that did the same thing.

Are they worth recharging or do I throw them in the trash and buy new?

Should have kept a better eye on them.




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jeffcat

09-12-2015 20:07:40




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 Re: fire extinguishers in reply to midwesternhayfarmer, 09-10-2015 17:51:12  
At work I got the chance to pick up a bunch of out of code ABC extiguishers. The reason is no one will go around and give them an upside down shake once a year. When you can pick up like 26 of them for free, Oh yea!!Like others have said, give them a good shake once and year and check the gauge. Good advice.



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RodInNS

09-12-2015 09:28:39




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 Re: fire extinguishers in reply to midwesternhayfarmer, 09-10-2015 17:51:12  
Those ones... being so small... are likely just junk at this point. The cost to hydro and recharge will exceed the cost of a new one. I think if I was going out and buying a new one I'd probably go looking for the cartridge type dry chem that have a nitrogen or Co2 cartridge on the side of them and a canister full of chem that is only pressurized when you pierce the canister to activate the extinguisher. They have the added benefit that you can remove the top and dump the chem out without having to pay someone to inspect and hydro the damn thing and they are less likely to lose their charge. DOwnside... probably a good deal more expensive up front.

Rod

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Stan in Oly, WA

09-10-2015 21:41:43




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 Re: fire extinguishers in reply to midwesternhayfarmer, 09-10-2015 17:51:12  
I lived in Honolulu for a few years after I got out of the army in 1970. The first job I had there was inspecting fire extinguishers in high rises and commercial buildings for a fire protection equipment company. The testing procedure for a small dry chemical extinguisher like you have was to turn it upside down and hit it smartly a few times with a rubber mallet. Then you would tap the gauge to make sure the needle quivered, which indicated that it still had pressure. Since most of the equipment I inspected was leased from the company I worked for, it was worth our while to hydro test the tanks when it was time to do so. Whether it would make sense for an individual is a different matter.

I could tell you how to recharge your extinguisher (or you could easily figure it out for yourself), but what would be the point? An appropriate fire extinguisher is an extremely valuable piece of safety equipment---more fires in commercial establishments are put out with fire extinguishers than any other way. Having a fire extinguisher that you couldn't be sure would work might be worse in some ways than not having one at all.

By the way, by "appropriate" fire extinguisher, I mean one that is right for the type of fire you think is most likely. A CO2 extinguisher, for instance, is great for liquid combustibles and electrical fires, but a poor choice for solid combustibles---it has no quenching capability, and, contrary to what navy enlisted men always used to claim, it doesn't have much cooling capability, either. In the shop of that company I worked for in Honolulu, there were virtually unlimited CO2 extinguishers waiting to be hydro tested, and we had a beer party every Friday after work. We always fired off the CO2 to chill our beer, and it never chilled it very much. On a complete footnote, I was later a bartender at a bar that catered to locals, not tourists, and a lot of locals drank their beer at room temperature, and others drank beer with ice in it. They're different there.

Stan

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Steve@Advance

09-10-2015 18:20:49




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 Re: fire extinguishers in reply to midwesternhayfarmer, 09-10-2015 17:51:12  
Don't believe those are rechargeable. There should be an expiration date on them.

If you want to keep the ones that still show pressure, might want to turn them over and shake the powder loose once a year. It tends to settle and compact in the bottom.

To get the rechargeable ones, you'll need to get into the $60 range. They still need to be inspected annually, and tested every 12 years.



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midwesternhayfarmer

09-10-2015 18:51:14




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 Re: fire extinguishers in reply to Steve@Advance, 09-10-2015 18:20:49  
Checked the labels and they said they were rechargeable but I'm guessing the cost will be close to a new one. We do have a disposable society. Seems a shame to just pitch them but the cost of labor here to recharge them is probably 10 times more than where they were manufactured overseas. You figure the cost of the tank, valve, chemical, charge, labor, packaging, transportation, profit, it's hard to believe it would be cheaper to buy new.

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midwesternhayfarmer

09-11-2015 08:40:07




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 Re: fire extinguishers in reply to midwesternhayfarmer, 09-10-2015 18:51:14  
Just called for recharge prices. 6 pounds of chemical size.

Repressurized, no chemical. $20.00

6 year service, $25.00. Shake chemical check gage, repressurize.

12 year service check pressure tank, check chemical, repressurize. $40.00

Can't be serviced if plastic valve. I think I'm out of luck. Probably have to buy new.



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GregCo

09-10-2015 18:18:35




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 Re: fire extinguishers in reply to midwesternhayfarmer, 09-10-2015 17:51:12  
The company that takes care of ours at work says 10 years is the life. At eight years old they will need to be emptied, inspected, and hydro tested. Seems at work it is costing about $50 for a 10 lb unit for inspection, testing and recharge. Might be less costly to replace them.

Greg



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dennis min

09-10-2015 18:11:12




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 Re: fire extinguishers in reply to midwesternhayfarmer, 09-10-2015 17:51:12  
Midwesternhatfarmer,

I prefer carbon dioxide extinguishers. They are heavy. They have their limits, but they can be used on nearly everything, and when done, the stuff just evaporates.

Good for "runaway" first=time=started engines. Deprive the engine of oxygen, provide plenty of carbon dioxide, and combustion comes to a halt, temporarily.

D.



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