Winchester model 67 22 caliber

jimlll

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My old 22 rimfire will not eject spent cartridges. The ejector is supposed to catch on the butt of the bullet and remove it from the barrel. Any suggestions?

Also I would like to obtain a 22 short semi auto. Any Suggestions?

Thanks for any info.
 
Have you cleaned it up REALLY WELL ? That's the first step. Then see if the chamber is burred from someone dry firing it. Then maybe the extractor is worn on the end or has a weak spring ?
 
Worn or dirty extractor would be the obvious place to start. Easy to disassemble--video below shows you how in the first couple of minutes. Clean, lightly lube, reassemble and check again. Numrich list them but says they're sold out at the moment, though I'm sure gunbroker or any of the other sites will have them if you look around--they're fairly common.
Model 67 disassembly
 
Sounds like the extractor you are describing, not the ejector. It grabs the case, not the bullet. A detailed cleaning of the chamber, and bolt is in order.

As for a semi auto 22 short, a Remington 552 is the only rifle that comes to mind. Very good rifles.
 
Has it been dry fired ? That can cause the burr mentioned below, once clean and you have done the other things, you can see if a spent bullet casing fits in the chamber and does not resist enough for the extractor not to catch it. There will be a difference in a live round and a spent one being ever so slightly expanded. I had a basket case 22 wmr that I suspected this, but it was the extractor and the bend in it, was ever so slightly off. It was a spring clip type that fits onto the bolt of this bolt action rifle.

If you have a slight deformation in the chamber, you can get a swage tool from Brownells that will fit in there and will push the metal back, read the instructions on its use. Its kind of a push in and turn action the way its machined. I bought one for this basket case and it maybe had a very slight deformation, meaning I think it helped, as it would not feed properly either, that was solved immediately after. Though it was mainly the extractor after carefully examining the action as it was cycled many many times. Had me fooled but good, the extractor tang needed to be bent slightly a little to work right. I really had to look carefully to determine what was going on by just slowly moving the action, had to go outside and point into a back stop with live ammo, did not want to try this in the house LOL !

Funny how some of these kinds of problems can take a sharp eye and patience to figure out, obviously yours is a different model and but if dry fired, it could be the cause or part of it.
 
Send me an e-mail and I'll see if I have the parts break down of it and if I do I'll scan it for you and send it to you. I have a number of books on firearms etc so fair chance I have one
 
Sometimes if you live in town, (even a small one) you need to eliminate certain varmints. .22 short hollow points work very well for me.
 
Here is a break down of the Winchester Model 62A not sure if it's the same or not.
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I shoot .22 Shorts in two Winchester rifles I have because that's all they will shoot. One is a Model 1890 and the other is a Model 74. They were originally chambered for the .22 Short only. Hundreds of squirrels have fallen victim to them. The 1890 was handed down to me from my father before he passed in 1982 and will go to my son and a grandson.
 
Here is a place that I bought parts from before. Maybe they can help you.

M&M Gunsmithing
2423 Carter Grove Rd
Unit B
Hazel Green AL 35750
571-276-7676 8:00am-4:00 pm CST
www.mmgunsmithing.com
 
My 1890 had the barrel replaced by Winchester in the early 1930s because of the black powder. The hex barrel in 22 short are worth the most money. The bore on mine is excelent shape.
 
Thanks for the info. I have a very low serial # Model 63 and need a new extractor. I haven't shot in years for that reason.
 
The little Browning takedown was made in 22 short, semi auto.Kinda spendy. Can you go with a pump gun 90% of them will shoot shorts.An old Model 61 shooter grade?
 
Yeah. I know. Just drives you nuts they are so much more than long rifles. I sold a fair amount of shorts when I was in business. Did get kinda sick of being accused of thievery every time I sold em though. "how come they are more than long rifles?" Because they cost me more than long rifles, that's why. "grumble, grumble, dang, grumble, crook, grumble, grumble, trying, grumble, to make, grumble, grumble, yer whole, grumble, living off, grumble, me." BIG SMILE! And you have a nice day, Sir.
 
Browning made a small .22 auto that shot shorts, feeds from the butt like the nylon 66 did. Norinco made a copy of the Browning but I think they stopped (well stopped being imported anyway), but there should be some like new ones around if you look. Its called the Norinco ADT.

The old Remingtons were nice, I think the 552 was the SpeedMaster, very nice gun and it was full sized so adults liked it. Its got a pretty good following now days and commands a pretty good price.

The Remington 550 was earlier and more utilitarian looking, they sell much cheaper. The floating chamber needed to be kept clean though.

And since nobody said it yet, if you want to shoot shorts in your Ruger 10/22, you can. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/355152/volquartsen-22-short-kit-ruger-10-22 Its expensive, you can buy 2 of the Remington 550s for just the cost of the conversion but sometimes people want what they want. If the money is holding you back, you can get just the mag for $45 and hand cycle the action. If you already own the 10/22, thats a quick, easy and cheap way to get into the .22 short game. I did it that way for years untill I got a cheap Savage pump, now that does my CB shooting.
 
The 1890 and the the other 22 short guns were for shooting gallerys and for HOME shooting. You sit on the back porch and have a shooting match. CA snap and not BOOM every shot. When you look at one at a gun show you can see how TOTALLY worn out the little 22 short guns were. As a kid like around 1960 I can still remember the fair had a real shooting gallery. Man they would have a cow today!!!
 
My Winchester 190 semi auto is stamped .22 short, .22 long, and .22 long rifle. I got it for Christmas at 12 years old in 1968, and I don't think I have ever tried a .22 short in it, mostly because long rifles were cheap and easy to get when I was shooting it a lot. I would think you could find one of that model pretty easy and fairly reasonable.
 
Bill NY is right on. I have fix hundreds with this Swage tool . Do that and then slowly run a chamber reamer in to clean the chamber out. It will be a new gun once again.
Gunsmith
 
no serial number on pre 1968 small bore and shotguns not common but not unknown. Pre WW2 no serial number more common on the .22s, single shot shotguns, some doubles and a few pumps have been seen minus serial numbers- especially the 'Hardware trade' models. Smooth bored 'rifles' may be shot out but often indicated a 'Gallery' or 'stage' gun that used shot shells indoors or carnival range. Pre 1938 the smooth bored large caliber pistols from Colt and S&W were made for movie, shooting demonstrations and some people wanted them for general protection indoor use and a few ordered by corrections depts, prison systems- shot shell to discourage troublemakers with the regular bullet load still useable at close defensive range. RN
 
There's a nice Winchestermodel 74 on gunbroker dot com right now.Search <Winchester .22 semi auto>
 
My old Winchester wasn't ejecting reliably and I just figured it was the extractor but it turns out there was a ring of bullet lube caked around the outside edge of the barrel that kept it from working like it should. I dug it out with a paperclip and all was well. It was really in there tight and took a little doing to get it all out. Check the easy stuff first.
 
Where could you even find 22 shorts, around here your very lucky to find Long Rifle at any price, sure not like the old days. Good luck and have fun.
David
 

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