Question about Modern View

Stan in Oly, WA

Well-known Member
If you use Modern View rather than Classic View, the postings are displayed in chronological order. How do you make sense of postings that come in out of chronological sequence in response to something someone other than the OP has said? Let's say A posts a question, and B, C, D, E, and F respond. The next day five more people respond and then X posts something disagreeing with what C said. In Modern View X's posting is now the most current, so it is at the top of the page. There's not a way to tell that it was intended to address something C said except to puzzle it out from the context. What if C had said, "That's a brilliant idea. I'm going to do that from now on," and tens posts later X reads what C has said and replies, "Me too". But X's response happens to occur right after K says to A, "That's a stupid idea. I think you're an idiot." Now, chronologically, it appears that X has agreed that A is an idiot rather than that A's idea is brilliant. In Classic view this is graphically clear. How do you work it out in Modern View?

Stan
 
I only use Classic, but hopefully those who reply to a post (in modern view) use the 'quote' function.
 
Good point, Thurlow. I completely forgot about that. Still, it seems like it could get pretty complicated to follow a debate which is graphed like an outline in Classic View, but could be all over the board in Modern View. Not everyone remembers to use the quote function.

Stan
 
You're absolutely correct, Chuck. But, if everybody did what was reasonable, the planet would bear no resemblance to the one we live on.

Stan
 
When I respond to someone in Classic, I try to either quote them or address them by name so it's obvious to Modern View users who my response is to. But it's easy enough to forget this detail.
 
(quoted from post at 18:34:39 04/30/15) When I respond to someone in Classic, I try to either quote them or address them by name so it's obvious to Modern View users who my response is to. But it's easy enough to forget this detail.
MarkB I'm guilty it can get confusing, I cant say that I've read this anywhere else. I even noted at one point some posts are not visible at times in the different views. There may be some instruction on this but we are usually bad about looking at the instruction's before we start something. When there are a lot of pictures and a lot of text you don't want to post it all again.
 
(quoted from post at 07:41:01 04/30/15) If you use Modern View rather than Classic View, the postings are displayed in chronological order. How do you make sense of postings that come in out of chronological sequence in response to something someone other than the OP has said? Let's say A posts a question, and B, C, D, E, and F respond. The next day five more people respond and then X posts something disagreeing with what C said. In Modern View X's posting is now the most current, so it is at the top of the page. There's not a way to tell that it was intended to address something C said except to puzzle it out from the context. What if C had said, "That's a brilliant idea. I'm going to do that from now on," and tens posts later X reads what C has said and replies, "Me too". But X's response happens to occur right after K says to A, "That's a stupid idea. I think you're an idiot." Now, chronologically, it appears that X has agreed that A is an idiot rather than that A's idea is brilliant. In Classic view this is graphically clear. How do you work it out in Modern View?

Stan

If you click on "quote" instead of "reply", then everyone will know who you replied to, and it will be in context. Just like I did here.
 
(quoted from post at 09:41:01 04/30/15) If you use Modern View rather than Classic View, the postings are displayed in chronological order. How do you make sense of postings that come in out of chronological sequence in response to something someone other than the OP has said? Let's say A posts a question, and B, C, D, E, and F respond. The next day five more people respond and then X posts something disagreeing with what C said. In Modern View X's posting is now the most current, so it is at the top of the page. There's not a way to tell that it was intended to address something C said except to puzzle it out from the context. What if C had said, "That's a brilliant idea. I'm going to do that from now on," and tens posts later X reads what C has said and replies, "Me too". But X's response happens to occur right after K says to A, "That's a stupid idea. I think you're an idiot." Now, chronologically, it appears that X has agreed that A is an idiot rather than that A's idea is brilliant. In Classic view this is graphically clear. How do you work it out in Modern View?

Stan

As many others have said, either use the "quote" feature or else address your comments to the specific individual.

Another thing that occurs is when you reply in classic to 2 or 3 individuals in the same thread, then in modern that shows up as 3 posts in a row from the same guy.

All of this comes as a result of trying to run classic and modern views simultaneously, and as a result neither one works the way it should. If modern was the only one available a lot of these issues would be eliminated. A lot of us have figured that out. Unfortunately, the powers that be here do not seem inclined to want to do that. So we have to deal with things the way they are.
 
(quoted from post at 10:52:19 05/01/15)
(quoted from post at 09:41:01 04/30/15) If you use Modern View rather than Classic View, the postings are displayed in chronological order. How do you make sense of postings that come in out of chronological sequence in response to something someone other than the OP has said? Let's say A posts a question, and B, C, D, E, and F respond. The next day five more people respond and then X posts something disagreeing with what C said. In Modern View X's posting is now the most current, so it is at the top of the page. There's not a way to tell that it was intended to address something C said except to puzzle it out from the context. What if C had said, "That's a brilliant idea. I'm going to do that from now on," and tens posts later X reads what C has said and replies, "Me too". But X's response happens to occur right after K says to A, "That's a stupid idea. I think you're an idiot." Now, chronologically, it appears that X has agreed that A is an idiot rather than that A's idea is brilliant. In Classic view this is graphically clear. How do you work it out in Modern View?

Stan

As many others have said, either use the "quote" feature or else address your comments to the specific individual.

Another thing that occurs is when you reply in classic to 2 or 3 individuals in the same thread, then in modern that shows up as 3 posts in a row from the same guy.

All of this comes as a result of trying to run classic and modern views simultaneously, and as a result neither one works the way it should. If modern was the only one available a lot of these issues would be eliminated. A lot of us have figured that out. Unfortunately, the powers that be here do not seem inclined to want to do that. So we have to deal with things the way they are.

Exactly. Could not have said it any better. Also, there seems to be several users of this forum who insist that "classic" is the only way to go, but they have NO problem using the "modern" format of other discussion forums that I am a menber of.
 
(quoted from post at 14:34:39 04/30/15) When I respond to someone in Classic, I try to either quote them or address them by name so it's obvious to Modern View users who my response is to. But it's easy enough to forget this detail.

So do I. Classic view is nice enough, but modern allows me to see the new posts in a more common sense order. I irks me to no end when some guy can't be bothered to ID who he's responding to, but not enough to put up with classic views downsides.
 
(quoted from post at 12:41:01 04/30/15) If you use Modern View rather than Classic View, the postings are displayed in chronological order. How do you make sense of postings that come in out of chronological sequence in response to something someone other than the OP has said? Let's say A posts a question, and B, C, D, E, and F respond. The next day five more people respond and then X posts something disagreeing with what C said. In Modern View X's posting is now the most current, so it is at the top of the page. There's not a way to tell that it was intended to address something C said except to puzzle it out from the context. What if C had said, "That's a brilliant idea. I'm going to do that from now on," and tens posts later X reads what C has said and replies, "Me too". But X's response happens to occur right after K says to A, "That's a stupid idea. I think you're an idiot." Now, chronologically, it appears that X has agreed that A is an idiot rather than that A's idea is brilliant. In Classic view this is graphically clear. How do you work it out in Modern View?

Stan

Use the "Quote" button like I just did.
 

Stan, to give you an answer specific to your question, I flip back to classic view maybe once every other month to see who someone is responding to. It is rarely that important to me, and I find modern view better enough that it doesn't bother me that here and there someone's response makes no sense.
 

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