used my new helmet on a crappy job

jon f mn

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Got to use the new helmet today on a small job for Jeff. His barn cleaner chain is worn out and have gotten so long they climb and jump off the drive gear and the flights are so rusted they are folding back. He got one used, but in good shape from a local dealer. But the flights are backward, so they need to be cut off and replaced. The new ones are the tall ones, but since jeff's doesn't climb we replaced them with regular angle. Here is a pic of an original and a repaired one.


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This is one job where I'm glad I have a good bandsaw. Stacked the angles, set the stop and cut them all in a few minutes.

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So anyway, I cut the old flights off, ground the junk and rust off the links, and welded the new angles on.
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New helmet is really nice! Works for grinding, cutting, and welding, and does all real well. It's much clearer in the clear mode than my old Jackson and so works amazingly well for grinding. The shades go from 3-8 for cutting and from 9-13 for welding. The clarity is amazing and the window is even larger than my old Jackson which was the top of the line when I bought it about 18 years ago. I won't be able to claim my crappy welds are because I can't see anymore. The head gear, altho a bit complex also works good after you get everything set right. It takes bit to do that tho because it has a LOT of different settings. So at least for now I'm very happy with it, hope it lasts me 18 years like the jackson
 
Yeah, well mine knows better than to cross me. I've been known to talk to it from time to time. Lol If you need a list of the best words I can send them in a private message.
 
Nice work, the band saw is THE way for that kind of job. how about a pic of the helmet?
BTW you are "cheating" as far as stable cleaner work....you are inside and its relativley clean!
 
John, nice weld. Years ago I worked part time for my neighbor who was a dairy farmer and Jamesway dealer. At 15 years old I would help change barn cleaner chain or bar on the shuttle strokes and installing and repairing silo unloaders and conveyors. I miss that old boy he was a handy and funny old fella. Some of the guys I have worked with off the farm and complain they have a crappy job, I would rather be knee deep than work with them! Greg
 
I would have had trouble welding that without having first either grinding or using a wire wheel in a grinder to clean the rust off the link.
 
Here are a few. First is my old Jackson next to the new one, then all the stuff that came with, finally a comparison of the head gears. Came with 4 front clear lenses, 2 inside clears, a bag to carry it, a kerchief, and stickers to fix it up if you like. I'll never use any of it exept the clear lenses. The bag and kerchief are really nice tho.
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took a welding class at the local high school and ...For the first couple of weeks I was called lightning... When I graduated he called me Mud-Dabber.. I guess I musta impressed him.
 
I did a lot of stick welding but no mig. Got a job in a machine shop where they used a mig. First crankshaft I welded up impressed the boss. Later, I wrapped a bead around one journal for 9&1/2 minutes. It takes steady nerves to hold it right whereas a stick is burning away & you have to feed it. Then get a break to change rods. I can recognize good work, Jon,
 
Paul, Jon has a ton of experience over many years, and clearly he does beautiful work, so I'm in no position to find fault with anything he does. My personal feeling about cleaning metal before welding is more along the lines of the joke about the guy who asks his dentist if he has to floss ALL his teeth every night. "No," the dentist says, "just the ones you want to keep." I only clean the metal for the welds that I need not to break. Whether they would hold if I didn't clean first I'll never know.

I do know that a lot of guys hear that 6010 rod is more tolerant of dirt, grease, rust, paint, etc. than many other rods, and take it to mean that using 6010 means you never have to bother to clean your metal again. Whatever floats your boat, I guess.

Stan
 
I did grind off the rust, this one was just a bit short and the weld touched the rust a bit. You wouldn't get that nice a weld going through that much rust. I am not as picky about it as some others tho depending on how strong the weld needs to be. I somehow missed getting pics of the pieces after grinding even tho I intended too.

Found the other pics, they got saved to a different file. This one shows that I ground the rust off in the weld area.

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I'm glad you took the time to clear that up, Jon. I was going to mention in my response to Paul Janke that I was surprised that you were able to get such a beautiful bead on rusty and dirty metal, as MIG is often quite intolerant of metal that is less than completely clean. I took a pretty close look at your bead and couldn't see evidence of cleaning anywhere around the margins. But not grinding quite enough and running the weld beyond the cleaned part is perfectly easy to understand. I think it's important that you made that clear. Less experienced weldors than yourself can see things like that and mistakenly think that something is okay that really isn't.

Stan
 

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