OT- Stupid comment on TV

Anyone watch the last NCIS New Orleans? The good guys went through a bad guys house and walked past a reloading set up. The female team member of the team accused them of making "BOOTLEG" ammunition. Something "BOOTLEG" is something produced illegally such as booze. As far as I know reloading ammo is not illegal in any state of the union. I am in doubt of the 2nd amendment beliefs of the producers of the show.
 
Richard! I thought maybe Ted Turner owned the net work,I didn't realize that Bloomberg, and Schulmer owned it now!
 
I didn't see it but I like that description. Next time I do repairs on my tractor at home I'm going to call them "bootleg" repairs. That'll make me feel like some sort of bada$$.
 
To the totally uneducated anti-gun left TV show media types a reloading machine would be considered a contraband item. Besides, why would anyone want to reload ammo when you can buy it.....? That is what they think, so why would a guy reload ammo? In their eyes he must be doing something bad....Like making cop killer ammo.

I have a real good plan for TV.......Do not watch it. The shows suck, the news sucks, the infomercials make me want to slash my wrists. The old TV shows are great though.
 
Yep, we watched it and I thought that was a strange comment. We like that show, but the southern accents are so fake sounding sometimes.
Richard in NW SC
 
Did you expect a show full of guns and shooting would be pro-gun? All these bleeding heart Hollywood types need to put their anti-gun message where their mouth is and quit producing shows and movies where guns make an appearance. Doubt any one of them would take that cut in revenue.
 
(quoted from post at 10:20:52 11/26/14) Perhaps they were loading armor piercing ammo or something like black talons that is only legal for law enforcement.

Black Talons were never illegal or LE only. They just got a real bad rap from the anti-gunners because of the SCARY name. That's it in a nutshell. Same thing for the so called "armor piercing idea. Your average deer rifle will shoot right though most police body armor but the antis make it sound like you need military AP to get through a vest so AP must be real bad stuff. It's hysteria brought on by agenda driven idiots.
 
(quoted from post at 08:54:26 11/26/14) Yep, we watched it and I thought that was a strange comment. We like that show, but the southern accents are so fake sounding sometimes.
Richard in NW SC
hat exaggerated fake southern accent whizzes my wife off so bad that when I have TV on that show she gives me "the glare" and leaves the room.
 

Armor piercing ammunition merely have bullets with a steel core. There is a procedure for putting steel inserts in bullets using a drill press with vise and epoxy glue, but since any 30-06 or equivalent round will penetrate 1/2 inch of mild steel it doesn't seem to be worth the effort.

KEH
 
It's been a long time but I've bought black talon ammo before. Around that time my ammo supplier said he had some of the ammo however he could only sell it to law enforcement. Therefore I thought it had just become illegal everywhere. I did a brief search just now and it appears it is illegal in some states.
 
How about the episode of CSI Miami where the bad guys drove off in a new Charger leaking Bio Diesel. Which of course was easily traceable.
 
If you watch another of the shows, CSI, they often say the same kind of stupid crap when it comes to gun related things. I figure it's just their way of letting everyone know that the cops are the good guys, and anyone else with a gun is a bad guy....just like the anti gun crowd wants it to seem.
 
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Ive seen a lot of those. It is nice to watch a bad movie now and then, the "they were good when they came out" B movies. Makes you appreciate the good ones lol.
 
TV and guns gets really silly sometimes-- the 'AK47' often used by the bad guy is a old Norinco self loader that is very hard for a propman to make full auto- but the cameraman can half freeze the shooting and the editing man can speed it up to seem full auto. Other one on Ammo- 7.62x39 'Armor Piercing'/illegal high powered original Russian ammo. What happened is some old M43 ball was found setting in prop room or the back shelf of gun shop- was legal import at the time. The using issue for shooter was the likely corrosive primers so left set awhile and the later M67 ammo used instead and most of that had less corrosive primers as well as a 'plain' bullet without the iron core and boat tail. And the actors that think that they can demonstrate a 'blank' cartridge is safe to shoot self in head don't help- the actor doesn't survive and show doesn't either. RN
 
They're screenwriters, it has nothing to do with reality. I like it when someone gets his throat cut and instantly drops to the floor without a sound, and a small trickle of blood. Remember the young actor about thirty years ago. Fooling around on the set and put a 44 mag to his head. They were only blanks, but he's dead.
 
Yes I heard it too. And I thought exactly the something you did. Guess I must have a "bootleg" operation in my basement.
 
This is off Richard's topic but it pertains to your comment. In 1993, actor Brandon Lee was shot and killed on a movie set with a revolver shooting theatrical blanks. Sometime before, while the scene was being set, it was discovered theatrical ammunition had been forgotten. Real ammunition with the bullets pulled, powder dumped and BULLETS REPLACED was used instead. For realism, the camera angle had to be established for making the bullets in the cylinders visible. The trigger was pulled to establish sound level for blanks and the movie crew moved on with the scene. Of course, the primer of the fired cartridge pushed the bullet into the pistol's barrel. It stayed there until the day of the shoot with actors and the power of the theatrical ammo used on that day was enough to drive the bullet out of the barrel and into Lee's chest. The pistol was unloaded after the test scene but tragically, no one thought to ask, "Why six cartridges and only five bullets?"
 
(quoted from post at 13:08:57 11/26/14) If you watch another of the shows, CSI, they often say the same kind of stupid crap when it comes to gun related things. I figure it's just their way of letting everyone know that the cops are the good guys, and anyone else with a gun is a bad guy....just like the anti gun crowd wants it to seem.

CSI is among the worst of the genre. I've attended a bunch of autopsies and I never, ever saw one conducted in a dark room and any ME that started talking to a corpse would be taken immediately to the looney bin. The problem is the average viewing public are the same people that bought into "If you like your plan, you can keep it...", and they really are dumb enough to believe it. The average person believes Joe Streetcop can go to a crime scene, find a magic fingerprint or DNA, enter it into the magic computer in his car and in 2.3 nano seconds you have a complete dossier on the individual that includes hos picture, families picture, past work and military history, every post to every website he ever made, copies of his phone, credit card and tax bills, credit card and banking records. etc. It's utter tripe. But it sure does make for "good" tv.
 
(quoted from post at 11:29:57 11/26/14) It's been a long time but I've bought black talon ammo before. Around that time my ammo supplier said he had some of the ammo however he could only sell it to law enforcement. Therefore I thought it had just become illegal everywhere. I did a brief search just now and it appears it is illegal in some states.

There is at least one state where Black Talon specifically is illegal to sell. So I stand corrected in that respect, but overall Black Talon, or it's Ranger STX alter ego (same thing, different box) is legal to sell, possess, use, etc. From now on I'll say BT was never illegal to sell except for in 1 state.
 
(quoted from post at 02:22:49 11/27/14) This is what 40 yr old 7.62 FMJ does to a 3/4 steel plate at 100 yds.
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Not fer nuthin' guy, but you'll get similar results with anything with enough KE on the target from SP hunting ammo to cast lead to FMJ military stuff. Change that plate to armor plate and you won't get the same result or use actual AP on that plate and you'll get through and through penetration.
 

If they sold ammunition from that reloader as a replica of a patented ammunition it would be bootleg. I doubt if that's what it was intended for.
 
Yeah Bret.I remember all the hoopla about it. The big thing all the moonbeam types were bent outta shape about was the name. It was racist, don't you know. "the ammo maker broght it on the market just to kill a certain race of people"!!!!They also made a big fuss about the bullet being a controlled expansion bullet like it was just south of a nuclear device in lethality for cryin' out loud.

If I remember correctly Jon-Erik's last words were something like, "Don't worry. It's only a blank. They can't hurt me." Again, if I remember correctly the fool was goofing around on the set and was playing Russian Roulette. The above remark was made after someone opined that it probably wasn't a good idea. Jennifer O'Neal was his co-star. Good looking lady and a good actress, but just another Hollyweird anti-gun mutt.
 
The comment about the bootleg ammo is one that caught my attention as well.I said Huh? then
pointed the error out to my wife.The thing that really got me was the specially issued model
38 special(Navy) laying there with the serial number filed off.The only person with a genuine
southern accent is Lucas Black.He's a Bama boy!
 
The government pays Holly weird to put nonsense like that into scripts.

They are trying to plant the idea into the minds of the low information voter that reloading ammo is somehow illegal.

Its just like the bill boards that they were running several years ago telling people to report illegal guns then showing the picture of a revolver, thus building the image that a hand gun is somehow illegal
 
One of the few csi shows I saw, they had the "new 5.7mm round that's only available to the military in a machine gun". Yeah, right, it had been on the market for nearly a year.

Those type of shows do a major disservice to law enforcement and crime labs. Everyone thinks you stick some blood in a machine and in 20 minutes you have a DNA profile. More like in 2 weeks. And the blood spatter and other techniques can give a general idea of what happened, but there's too many variables (droplet size, surface irregularities, air currents) to make any valid conclusion from it.

They say a person's fingerprints are unique, no two people have the same prints, but no one has done the actual work to determine just how unique or how many points have to match to get a "1 in X people" match.
 

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