undercoating truck with used motor oil

Cas

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I did not want to steal post below on sprayers. Live in the Northeast lot of salt and calcium liquid used on highways. If used oil put on in the late fall, how longer would it last?
 
Will not last long at all. Maybe at best a week or 2 depending on how wet it maybe. Water and salt on a road comes up almost like stuff out of a sand blaster. Sort of like riding a motorcycle in the rain going 60 MPH it hurts like a so and so on bear skin
 
no only would it kinda make you an eco terrorist.. it wouldn't help much.


asphalt fence paint ont he other hand would be nearly environmentally inert when cured.. AND do you some good!
 
I looked all over for asphalt fence paint after your post a few weeks ago and could not find it locally. I ordered it from HD and it was shipped to my local store. I'm going to try to put it on tomorrow.
 
It DOES help. I've been doing it on and off for a lot of years. No, it doesn't last as long as some other stuff but it doesn't hurt anything. There was a body man down home sprayed his old Dodge Power Wagon down all the time. Thing looked like new 50 years later. The trick is getting the sand and salt thats there out first and getting up inside the doors and frame. Lotta work, doesn't last more than a month at best, but it certainly does help.
 
In the olden days, before PCV valves, cars had draft tubes and oil vapors were pulled from engine under the car and mostly deposited under the car downwind from the tube. Also had a black stripe down the middle of the lane. Many roads weren't paved and the dust would stick to the oil residue. Car could be rusted out but if you scraped off the black fluff the car was like new in that area. I asked around and the trick then was to spray the underside and cruise the dirt roads, thereby coating your car. Oil by itself won't last too long so you'd have to keep at it. One post mentioned boiled linseed oil and used ATF, 50/50, sprayed on frame. Don't know how that holds up? Good luck! joe-
 

There is a clear and distinct difference between oiled and non oiled vehicles.
If the rocker panels, cab corners, door posts, door pillars, all nooks and crannies ,sprayed all around the head light edges and all around the front grill.
The oiled vehicle will easily go 12-15 years before the first salt perforation . Nearly twice as long as the untreated vehicle.
 
(quoted from post at 10:11:17 08/31/14) They must love you down at the car wash.

Who goes to a car wash? We hose them down in front of the barn. Car washes are for rich urbanites, sub-urbanites and women. I don't think we even have a car wash in town anymore.
 
I spray my truck spring and fall and get around 16 to 20years before I see any rust coming through. The oil will stay on good if truck is dry when you coat it. I also use new 20 weight non-deterant oil and add STP or Lucas oil stabilizer to make it tacky. Here is a picture of my 1997 GMC taken a year ago and this spring I found the first spot in rear fender with a rust spot which is not bad foe a 17 year old truck.I live in northern Indiana and our roads are sloped with salt in winter.
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Oil will work better than nothing and once a year should do it.
But you want to spray IN not on.
Inside doors , cab corners, frame if boxed, hog troughs and inner fenders if car. It will last longer with oiling than if you did nothing.
 
I'm not a woman, I'm not rich and I'm not an urbanite.
I do live in the burbs if that matters.
Automatic car wash costs $5.95 if I buy 15 gallons of gas.
Takes 4 minutes to go through and I'm on my way.
Why would anyone put down that kind of convienience?
 
(quoted from post at 17:41:38 08/31/14) I'm not a woman, I'm not rich and I'm not an urbanite.
I do live in the burbs if that matters.
Automatic car wash costs $5.95 if I buy 15 gallons of gas.
Takes 4 minutes to go through and I'm on my way.
Why would anyone put down that kind of convienience?

$5.95 for 4 minutes? My God, thats $90 an hour for that "convenience".

Why would anyone put down washing your car at home when thats the alternative?
 
(quoted from post at 19:35:34 08/31/14)
(quoted from post at 17:41:38 08/31/14) I'm not a woman, I'm not rich and I'm not an urbanite.
I do live in the burbs if that matters.
Automatic car wash costs $5.95 if I buy 15 gallons of gas.
Takes 4 minutes to go through and I'm on my way.
Why would anyone put down that kind of convienience?

$5.95 for 4 minutes? My God, thats $90 an hour for that "convenience".

Why would anyone put down washing your car at home when thats the alternative?

The car wash is worth it in the cold of winter to remove salt and grime from your vehicle. No froze hose.
 
I have been spraying new 15w40 on vehicle under bodies for 2 or 3 years with a Binks #7 spraygun. Used oil spraying is not allowed in some jurisdictions (bearing heavy metals IIRC). Articles I read said its a commonly available service in Canada. It gets pretty thin in some places by spring, but 2/3 of it sticks pretty good. Only takes about a pint to spray a pickup.
 
(quoted from post at 19:35:34 08/31/14)
(quoted from post at 17:41:38 08/31/14) I'm not a woman, I'm not rich and I'm not an urbanite.
I do live in the burbs if that matters.
Automatic car wash costs $5.95 if I buy 15 gallons of gas.
Takes 4 minutes to go through and I'm on my way.
Why would anyone put down that kind of convienience?

$5.95 for 4 minutes? My God, thats $90 an hour for that "convenience".

Why would anyone put down washing your car at home when thats the alternative?

I don't see any use working for an hour to save $5.95. My time is worth way more than that.
 
Mix it with some chainsaw bar oil for tackiness. Then drive down a gravel/dirt road immediately after oil spraying. Will look ugly underneath, but won"t come off.
 
(quoted from post at 19:41:38 08/31/14) I'm not a woman, I'm not rich and I'm not an urbanite.
I do live in the burbs if that matters.
Automatic car wash costs $5.95 if I buy 15 gallons of gas.
Takes 4 minutes to go through and I'm on my way.
Why would anyone put down that kind of convienience?

Maybe if I lived near one I would. Nearest one is 45 miles away according to my wife and costs about $10.00. Either way, it's not going to do the underside very good which is where the problem is.
 
cab corners, inside rockers, closed channels,
another good use for corn head flowable grease or equivilent.

Another vote for a trip down a dirt road fast, after spraying oil underneath.
Best of all is in the summer when the 'fresh stone' signs go up on rural roads. They do the roads around me like that almost every year, oil and stone.
Trip down one of them after spraying your undercarriage will give an oil and granite dust armor plate underneath.

anything to stop that oxygen from reaching the metal.

BTW, to keep it tractor related.
Ultimate coating (working on Ford wheels I bought from a farm)
years of rear hubs leaking gear oil, dirt, and manure, put a coating on the wheels that nothing would touch. Solvents, pressure wash, nothing doing.
hammer and chisel to get it off.
(wheel was like new underneath)
 
Because for $5.95 your car isn't clean and all the areas that will cause it to rust out are not even touched.
 
(quoted from post at 18:52:17 08/31/14) I defended the convienience of an automatic car wash. I did not put down washing your car at home.

Actually, in fact, you did.

Your responce was circular logic, known as begging the question. An automatic car wash that only takes 4 minutes and cost $5.95, who could be against that. Thats begging the question. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question http://changingminds.org/disciplines/argument/fallacies/begging_question.htm

Through your statement that although you are not rich, an urbanite but live in the burbs and since $5.95 and 4 minutes of your time its worth the convience to pay it and be on your way. Then you poised the question of why anybody would put down that convience (indicating that there could not be any possable opposition to doing it that way). Well, you got your answer from not only me but others as well.
 
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(quoted from post at 19:35:34 08/31/14)
(quoted from post at 17:41:38 08/31/14) I'm not a woman, I'm not rich and I'm not an urbanite.
I do live in the burbs if that matters.
Automatic car wash costs $5.95 if I buy 15 gallons of gas.
Takes 4 minutes to go through and I'm on my way.
Why would anyone put down that kind of convienience?

$5.95 for 4 minutes? My God, thats $90 an hour for that "convenience".

Why would anyone put down washing your car at home when thats the alternative?

The car wash is worth it in the cold of winter to remove salt and grime from your vehicle. No froze hose.

Define "worth". Can you show me the ROI on that? No, really. Are you able to pencil that out or are you just guessing?

FWIW, I havent once, outside of work where a hose got forgotten, froze a hose. Not once. That fact right there could put a huge dent in your numbers seeing as how you only stated 2 things and one never happens....

Just saying....
 
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(quoted from post at 19:35:34 08/31/14)
(quoted from post at 17:41:38 08/31/14) I'm not a woman, I'm not rich and I'm not an urbanite.
I do live in the burbs if that matters.
Automatic car wash costs $5.95 if I buy 15 gallons of gas.
Takes 4 minutes to go through and I'm on my way.
Why would anyone put down that kind of convienience?

$5.95 for 4 minutes? My God, thats $90 an hour for that "convenience".

Why would anyone put down washing your car at home when thats the alternative?

I don't see any use working for an hour to save $5.95. My time is worth way more than that.

If it takes you a hour to wash your car/truck, your argument could hold water, maybe. But before we get into the details of that, one has to wonder, what in god green earth makes it take you a hour to wash your vehicle? Im not talking a detail or wax, just an equilivent wash than you would get if you spent the $5.95 at the car wash.






[i:78f9c7ec9a]My god, I cant believe people at argueing car washing at home vs. at the car wash. Please lord, make the rain stop soon, Im not sure I can take this anymore and the irony is just too thick...[/i:78f9c7ec9a]
 
(quoted from post at 14:56:43 09/01/14)
(quoted from post at 23:06:51 08/31/14)
(quoted from post at 19:35:34 08/31/14)
(quoted from post at 17:41:38 08/31/14) I'm not a woman, I'm not rich and I'm not an urbanite.
I do live in the burbs if that matters.
Automatic car wash costs $5.95 if I buy 15 gallons of gas.
Takes 4 minutes to go through and I'm on my way.
Why would anyone put down that kind of convenience?

$5.95 for 4 minutes? My God, that's $90 an hour for that "convenience".

Why would anyone put down washing your car at home when that's the alternative?

I don't see any use working for an hour to save $5.95. My time is worth way more than that.

If it takes you a hour to wash your car/truck, your argument could hold water, maybe. But before we get into the details of that, one has to wonder, what in god green earth makes it take you a hour to wash your vehicle? I'm not talking a detail or wax, just an equivalent wash than you would get if you spent the $5.95 at the car wash.






[i:58c616d013]My god, I cant believe people at arguing car washing at home vs. at the car wash. Please lord, make the rain stop soon, Im not sure I can take this anymore and the irony is just too thick...[/i:58c616d013]

#1 You can't do an equivalent wash
#2 I'm not that broke or cheap to whine about $5.95.
 
Well guys, what it comes down to is that there isn't a car wash in the world that's going to look up under your vehicle and see that there's a big gob of sand someplace or take the time to run the water inside your frame or into the doors, much less observe the drain holes in the doors are plugged or open. If you don't live in rust country, all this probably seems silly. If you do then you get it. Simple as that.
 
(quoted from post at 16:35:34 08/31/14)
(quoted from post at 17:41:38 08/31/14) I'm not a woman, I'm not rich and I'm not an urbanite.
I do live in the burbs if that matters.
Automatic car wash costs $5.95 if I buy 15 gallons of gas.
Takes 4 minutes to go through and I'm on my way.
Why would anyone put down that kind of convienience?

$5.95 for 4 minutes? My God, thats $90 an hour for that "convenience".

Why would anyone put down washing your car at home when thats the alternative?

4 minutes in the car wash versus 30+ minutes with a bucket and sponge. What's your time worth?
 
(quoted from post at 08:38:27 09/01/14) Because for $5.95 your car isn't clean and all the areas that will cause it to rust out are not even touched.

Neither are they when you do a typical "bucket and sponge" wash.
 
[i:35e220bd03]My god, I cant believe people at argueing car washing at home vs. at the car wash. Please lord, make the rain stop soon, Im not sure I can take this anymore and the irony is just too thick...[/i:35e220bd03]

Yeah, but at least it's a new subject. We could be arguing Ford vs. Chevy or JD vs. IH... Or talking about electricity.
 
Maybe it has something to do with what your pickup is for and what it means to you.
My pickup is just a tool I use to make a living.
For the last 20 years my tax lady would tell me when I had no more depreciation left on it and when it was time to buy a new one. Usually every 5 years.
I traded them in before they rusted.
Everything I do to my pickup is a tax deduction - oil changes, tires, maintenance, repairs, even washing it is deductable.
So I never touch them. Just go to the dealer for oil changes, etc and run it through the car wash when it's dirty.
For other folks their pickup means something else and they want to take real good care of them, wash them by hand, spray under them with oil, wax them, etc.
That's cool with me. But it's not what I do.
It's not a one size fits all kind of deal.
 
Actually it takes about 15 minutes with a rag and a garden hose - and you can spray the bottom side of the car and clean the wheel wells. By the time the car wash has the pressure cranked up enough to get the car clean (without leaving behind a permanent coat of scum) without touching it you are probably blasting off paint and clean coat.
 
Guys on here talking about car washes that can't get to the places that I coat with oil ( new oil). I drill holes into the panels that are boxed in and hold moisture and spray with oil and then put a plug in hole and spray every thing under truck. I use new 20 or 30 weight non detergent oil and mix it with STP or Lucas Heavy Duty Stabilizer or chainsaw bar oil that will make it tacky and stops the excessive run off of straight oil. If it gets a little to tacky( in cooler weather) I put a space heater far enough to warm oil up so it will spray. I at one time I used used oil till I was told of all the acids that are found in used oils so thats when I went to new oil.
 
Fluid film is far better than used oil, have been using it for 5 years or more now and have had excellent results. Spray good first time and touch up every year or two. environmentaly friendly and more effective than oil
 
(quoted from post at 14:48:20 09/01/14)
(quoted from post at 19:01:09 08/31/14)
(quoted from post at 19:35:34 08/31/14)
(quoted from post at 17:41:38 08/31/14) I'm not a woman, I'm not rich and I'm not an urbanite.
I do live in the burbs if that matters.
Automatic car wash costs $5.95 if I buy 15 gallons of gas.
Takes 4 minutes to go through and I'm on my way.
Why would anyone put down that kind of convienience?

$5.95 for 4 minutes? My God, thats $90 an hour for that "convenience".

Why would anyone put down washing your car at home when thats the alternative?

The car wash is worth it in the cold of winter to remove salt and grime from your vehicle. No froze hose.

Define "worth". Can you show me the ROI on that? No, really. Are you able to pencil that out or are you just guessing?

FWIW, I havent once, outside of work where a hose got forgotten, froze a hose. Not once. That fact right there could put a huge dent in your numbers seeing as how you only stated 2 things and one never happens....

Just saying....

So how long does it take to wash your vehicle by hand? How long to drain the water from the hose? And yes if I do not drag the hose up a hillside and let it drain it will freeze up in the winter.
And the car wash I use does the underside too. Do you wash the underside of your auto every time?
Also I always get wet when I wash my vehicle, esp my shoes.

And lastly I am a patriotic American who supports my local businesses. My local car wash is locally owned and uses no Chinese water.
 
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(quoted from post at 16:35:34 08/31/14)
(quoted from post at 17:41:38 08/31/14) I'm not a woman, I'm not rich and I'm not an urbanite.
I do live in the burbs if that matters.
Automatic car wash costs $5.95 if I buy 15 gallons of gas.
Takes 4 minutes to go through and I'm on my way.
Why would anyone put down that kind of convienience?

$5.95 for 4 minutes? My God, thats $90 an hour for that "convenience".

Why would anyone put down washing your car at home when thats the alternative?

4 minutes in the car wash versus 30+ minutes with a bucket and sponge. What's your time worth?

Using those numbers, looks like $45 a hour tax free. I wont get into the whole explanation of if Im not working and calling it "free time" or anything like that, just flat numbers posted above show its worth $45 a hour tax free. Do you make more than that? Would you turn that down if it was offered to you? Some would, some wouldnt.
 
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[i:28c9dabd2e]My god, I cant believe people at argueing car washing at home vs. at the car wash. Please lord, make the rain stop soon, Im not sure I can take this anymore and the irony is just too thick...[/i:28c9dabd2e]

Yeah, but at least it's a new subject. We could be arguing Ford vs. Chevy or JD vs. IH... Or talking about electricity.

You got a point.... for a while, I swore if I had to read Mr. Peabody give one more generator lecture I was going to remove my eye balls with a rusty spoon...
 
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(quoted from post at 14:56:43 09/01/14)
(quoted from post at 23:06:51 08/31/14)
(quoted from post at 19:35:34 08/31/14)
(quoted from post at 17:41:38 08/31/14) I'm not a woman, I'm not rich and I'm not an urbanite.
I do live in the burbs if that matters.
Automatic car wash costs $5.95 if I buy 15 gallons of gas.
Takes 4 minutes to go through and I'm on my way.
Why would anyone put down that kind of convenience?

$5.95 for 4 minutes? My God, that's $90 an hour for that "convenience".

Why would anyone put down washing your car at home when that's the alternative?

I don't see any use working for an hour to save $5.95. My time is worth way more than that.

If it takes you a hour to wash your car/truck, your argument could hold water, maybe. But before we get into the details of that, one has to wonder, what in god green earth makes it take you a hour to wash your vehicle? I'm not talking a detail or wax, just an equivalent wash than you would get if you spent the $5.95 at the car wash.






[i:41600d7f77]My god, I cant believe people at arguing car washing at home vs. at the car wash. Please lord, make the rain stop soon, Im not sure I can take this anymore and the irony is just too thick...[/i:41600d7f77]

#1 You can't do an equivalent wash
#2 I'm not that broke or cheap to whine about $5.95.

#1 Im fully capable. Why you cant is again the question.
#2 Im not broke either, in fact far from it. But I have to ask, why do we all have to hear you whining about how you are incapable of washing your own vehice is a timely manor and equivalent to how a car wash can?
 
The oil has to help - I just finished cutting up three F350's to make
one good one. Wherever there was engine oil leaked out there was
still factory black paint, no rust, even on a '87 and '88.
 
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(quoted from post at 14:48:20 09/01/14)
(quoted from post at 19:01:09 08/31/14)
(quoted from post at 19:35:34 08/31/14)
(quoted from post at 17:41:38 08/31/14) I'm not a woman, I'm not rich and I'm not an urbanite.
I do live in the burbs if that matters.
Automatic car wash costs $5.95 if I buy 15 gallons of gas.
Takes 4 minutes to go through and I'm on my way.
Why would anyone put down that kind of convienience?

$5.95 for 4 minutes? My God, thats $90 an hour for that "convenience".

Why would anyone put down washing your car at home when thats the alternative?

The car wash is worth it in the cold of winter to remove salt and grime from your vehicle. No froze hose.

Define "worth". Can you show me the ROI on that? No, really. Are you able to pencil that out or are you just guessing?

FWIW, I havent once, outside of work where a hose got forgotten, froze a hose. Not once. That fact right there could put a huge dent in your numbers seeing as how you only stated 2 things and one never happens....

Just saying....

So how long does it take to wash your vehicle by hand? How long to drain the water from the hose? And yes if I do not drag the hose up a hillside and let it drain it will freeze up in the winter.
And the car wash I use does the underside too. Do you wash the underside of your auto every time?
Also I always get wet when I wash my vehicle, esp my shoes.

And lastly I am a patriotic American who supports my local businesses. My local car wash is locally owned and uses no Chinese water.

So you cant figure ROI?

I guess Im doing something wrong then, as you so skillfully [i:32f2b4bce2]begged the question[/i:32f2b4bce2] that I am an unpatriotic American, I have been giving a large chunk of my discretionary spending to local charities, rather than the local wealthy business owners. I just dont feel that Im helping too many people, other than myself, when I go out and buy a steak. When I go downtown and buy a bday card or other trinket, the Hallmark lady (who lives on the lake and never donates to the church or the food pantry) is happy but in the end my money dont go to far since her prices are about 100% higher than most other places. Thats why I pick and chose where my money goes so it have the most effect for the local people that need it. But again, I must be doing something wrong. Maybe I can subscribe to your newsletter because according to you, you got it going on (other than the math and all that but just dont respond to it and it goes away, right?).
 
(quoted from post at 12:50:28 09/02/14) Maybe it has something to do with what your pickup is for and what it means to you.
My pickup is just a tool I use to make a living.
For the last 20 years my tax lady would tell me when I had no more depreciation left on it and when it was time to buy a new one. Usually every 5 years.
I traded them in before they rusted.
Everything I do to my pickup is a tax deduction - oil changes, tires, maintenance, repairs, even washing it is deductable.
So I never touch them. Just go to the dealer for oil changes, etc and run it through the car wash when it's dirty.
For other folks their pickup means something else and they want to take real good care of them, wash them by hand, spray under them with oil, wax them, etc.
That's cool with me. But it's not what I do.
It's not a one size fits all kind of deal.


At least that makes sense. If I could write off everything on my vehicles I might feel that way too. But I can't and I don't. I;m driving either a 97 F350 that's going to get the underside and cavities sprayed or a 95 Burb that's rusting away, partly because it never got sprayed. My wife 97 Jeep Wrangler is rusting so bad because a previous owner never took care of it that she going to have to get rid of it. The 05 Explorer is rusting. If you don't live in a place where they use immense amounts of salt on the road then crawling around on your knees with a pressure washer wand in hand for an hour every spring and spending more time washing the underside than top side probably seems insane. But we can't write everything off, the vehicles are all paid for except the Explorer. We have to try to make them last, not because we are car nuts, but because the life of a vehicle that gets no care here is about 10 years at best. Frames rust in half, doors fall off, spring hangers break loose. You won't believe it unless you live in salt country.

If 15 minutes a few times with an oil gun or Fluid Film or whatever is too costly...we just live in different worlds.
 
DONT WASTE YOUR TIME. I've had thousands of cars and trucks up on the hoists over the 22+ years. people would brag to me what they had done with used oil. Get them up on the hoist and take a look, after the 2nd or 3rd time on wet pavement its gone. Takes them longer to do it than the protection lasts.
 

The oil stays on the inside of rocker panels, cab corners, inside of fenders etc. where rust grows from the inside out.
I suggest you pull your head out of where it is and take a look.
 
(quoted from post at 21:58:31 09/03/14)
The oil stays on the inside of rocker panels, cab corners, inside of fenders etc. where rust grows from the inside out.
I suggest you pull your head out of where it is and take a look.

Ayup. And anything is better than nothing.
 

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