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Lead-acid battery vs. concrete. Which is heavier per sq. ...

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Brad Buchanan

07-26-2014 07:47:54
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Morning folks.

I have a very old electric forklift that has a huge inoperative battery. I have been operating it with a couple of 12 volt auto batteries perched on top of the battery housing.

I did some investigating and found that the battery is composed of 12 2 volt cells 6" x 7" x 24" encased in plastic housings.

I am thinking about pulling all the cells out of the housing which is 1/4" steel, filling it with concrete to about a foot from the top and installing 4 6 volt golf car batteries.

The battery serves as ballast for the truck and I was wondering if the concrete would weigh as much as the removed cells.

Thanks in advance for the help and comments.

Brad

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Brad Buchanan

07-27-2014 08:00:07
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 Re: Lead-acid battery vs. concrete. Which is heavier per sq. ... in reply to Brad Buchanan, 07-26-2014 07:47:54  
Thanks for all the great replies!

Looks like the concrete will weigh about 2/3 as much as the cells which will be fine for what I do with the truck.

I drained all the acid out of the cells and rinsed them out. The local scrap guy offered .12 per pound and after checking I think that is a way lowball price for these.

The cells weigh about 110 lbs each and there are 12 of them.

Brad



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George Marsh

07-27-2014 06:58:19
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 Re: Lead-acid battery vs. concrete. Which is heavier per sq. ... in reply to Brad Buchanan, 07-26-2014 07:47:54  
I would say just do it. Line battery case with cardboard in case you want to use battery case again.

Brother-in-law has a very large fork lift for his boat storage, stores one boat over another boat.

His fork lift has all kinds of suit case weights hanging off the back for ballast.

You can always figure out a way to add more ballast if needed.

I made a ballast weight for neighbor's massey. He lifts 1100 # bales of hay, so I made him 1100# ballast for his 3 pt out of a 55 gallon drum filled with concrete. Works great. Happy neighbor.
George

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07-26-2014 19:05:08
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 Re: Lead-acid battery vs. concrete. Which is heavier per sq. ... in reply to Brad Buchanan, 07-26-2014 07:47:54  
That old big battery will scrap for a nice bit of $$$$$ if you shop around quotes from the scrapyards...



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johnski

07-26-2014 13:38:49
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 Re: Lead-acid battery vs. concrete. Which is heavier per sq. ... in reply to Brad Buchanan, 07-26-2014 07:47:54  
Lets do some quick math.
1 cell 6x7x24= 1008 cu. in.
1 cu. ft.= 1728 cu. in.
1 cu.ft concrete approx 150 lbs 150/1728= .087 lbs per cu. in.
1008x.087= 87.7 lbs concrete per cell If you can pull and weigh one cell you should be able to compare weights.
HTH Jf



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Ypop

07-26-2014 11:51:01
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 Re: Lead-acid battery vs. concrete. Which is heavier per sq. ... in reply to Brad Buchanan, 07-26-2014 07:47:54  
their should be a tag on the side of the battery with the weight of the battery or stamped right on the side in the steal.
Ypop



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buickanddeere

07-26-2014 11:25:10
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 Re: Lead-acid battery vs. concrete. Which is heavier per sq. in reply to Brad Buchanan, 07-26-2014 07:47:54  
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The thing is it's solid concrete with a SG of approx 2.4 vs. lead which is not solid. A battery is acid which has a SG of just over 1 and rubber/plastic. Solid lead has a SG of 11.35



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BIG ED

07-26-2014 08:56:18
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 Re: Lead-acid battery vs. concrete. Which is heavier per sq. ... in reply to Brad Buchanan, 07-26-2014 07:47:54  
I had some junk 6 volt golfcart batts, that weighed 62 lbs each



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JMS/.MN

07-26-2014 08:41:55
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 Re: Lead-acid battery vs. concrete. Which is heavier per sq. ... in reply to Brad Buchanan, 07-26-2014 07:47:54  
Concrete weighs about 150 lbs/cu foot, depending on mix.



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Steve@Advance

07-26-2014 08:40:32
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 Re: Lead-acid battery vs. concrete. Which is heavier per sq. ... in reply to Brad Buchanan, 07-26-2014 07:47:54  
Concrete weighs about 150 lbs square ft.

You could look up the specs on the forklift battery, or weigh one of the golf cart batteries, figure the size, get a rough estimate of the weight.



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buickanddeere

07-26-2014 07:59:26
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 Re: Lead-acid battery vs. concrete. Which is heavier per sq. in reply to Brad Buchanan, 07-26-2014 07:47:54  
Is there room to build a "proper" battery rack on top and just leave the old lead acid pack in place?



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Brad Buchanan

07-26-2014 08:14:15
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 Re: Lead-acid battery vs. concrete. Which is heavier per sq. in reply to buickanddeere, 07-26-2014 07:59:26  
Not really. It is a somewhat unusual configuration with the operator seated above the battery.



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