Speaking of Roundup

John T

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I am NOT a fan of weedeating so anywhere its required I always sprayed with Roundup around the shop and home etc. HOWEVER each year after maybe 4 weeks where I used Roundup GRASS OR WEEDS BEGAN REAPPEARING. I had to spray like 3 times a year to keep it green free. So I was at Rural King last year and see a gallon of BARRIER and gave it a try. BEST STUFF I EVER USED, weeds grass scrub whatever IS COMPLETELY DEAD after two weeks AND STAYS DEAD ALL YEAR and even this year where it was used there's way less growth maybe some of that fine mossy lookin stuff? It costs $39 a gallon and that makes me two 9 gallon batches I use in my golf cart hauled 12 VDC powered sprayer, just ride around all the farm (no longer keep livestock) buildings and spray away. I saw they had Ortho Ground Clear and other complete vegetation killers a bit cheaper but I stuck with Barrier again this year since it works so well and soooooooooo much better then using Roundup 2 or 3 times in a season grrrrrrrrr. For $39 a year I dont have to weed eat yayyyyyyyyy

John T
 
Roundup is a contact herbicide- no residual. What you saw was emerged plants killed. Subsequent treatment was required for those that emerged later. In field crops, rows shade the ground to prevent further emergence of new weeds. If the soil was exposed to the sun, new weeds would emerge as well.
 

Roundup works great on the fence rows. Only have to do it once per year. However, Roundup is not so effective on my gravel driveway. I've sprayed the driveway 3 times already this year. I don't understand how the Roundup can be SO effective on the fencerows, and so INeffective on the driveway. The weeds I am fighting are the same in both areas. Guess I need to look for some Barrier.
 
Some weeds like marestail are also becoming resistant to RU. Depending too much on 1 chemical has its risks...
 
Any contact herbicide will require multiple applications each season. It is also best if you try other herbicides so the weeds do not build up a resistance.
 
John, wish I could spray instead of weed eat. Did it one time several years ago and water runoff caused a lot of erosion close to buildings. Of course, every thing around here is on a hill or slope.
Richard in NW SC
 
"Any contact herbicide will require multiple applications each season" THAT WAS CERTAINLKY TRUE FOR ROUNDUP since it required 2 or 3 applications each year grrrrrrrrrrrr lol

Thanks for the info, I guess Barrier IS NOT some type of "contact herbicide" then, since ONLY ONE application kills grass and weeds the ENTIRE SEASON and even some of the next!!!

Whatever kind it is "other then" contact I love it since I only have to spray one time yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Take care, thanks for the info, no more CONTACT HERBICIDE LIKE ROUNDUP FOR ME

John T
 
I was sick the day that was taught lol but seems they have something to do with plants and roots and herbicide action/type etc maybe???

All I know fer sure is Roundup took 2 or 3 applications, while Barrier ONLY takes (on my farm and soil type and grass and weeds at least, maybe not somebody elses) one, but all that "contact herbicide" and "residual" and "systemic" is Greek to me grrrrrrrr

Thanks for the info however, Maybe with yalls help I'm NOT too old to learn why Roundup and Barrier are different and one takes 3 applications while another only 1?????????? Systemic, residual and contact must be the difference??? Maybe some Ag and Chemical and Herbicide experts can educate us all yayyyyyy

An ever curious and hopefully not too old to learn John T
 
Put me in coach !!!!!!! Youre a good teacher!!!

Now that I think about it, actually Barrier is advertised more like a complete ground kill or poison NUTTIN GROWS THERE AGAIN ALL YEAR, NO more applications required, versus Roundup which goes down into the roots (translocates???) and kills that particular plant dead yet another new plant might be able to spring up a short time later. IT IS NOT A COMPLETE GROUND KILLER.

Perhaps where I got cornfused was the poster who said a "contact herbicide" required more applications and SILLY ME thought since I sprayed Barrier and it came in contact with the plant, it was a "contact herbicide" but I reckon not since it DOES NOT require more applications, one spray n youre done...........

Im learning, thanks for the help

John T
 
You can't claim ignorance and come up with a word like "translocate"!

Indeed, roundup(glyphosate) has to soak into the plant. Once it reaches the ground, it's not going to do anything. Many have been disappointed with it as they think it should kill everything- well, maybe. What it was originally magical for here was cleaning up quackgrass. It translocates down into the roots(rhizomes) and kills the whole plant, so no more pops up elsewhere.

I just sprayed 90 acres where I couldn't plant oats, and used a mixture of glyphosate and 24D ester, carried in water, with a little liquid N fertilizer thrown in.
 
JohnT, I'm not a fan of using chemicals because both of my places are on a well.

Unlike most, I am a fan of flowers. I have flowers around all my buildings. Tiger lillies around mail box. Very few weeds will have a chance once they get established.

Last year we had loads of wild strawberries growing. I have seedum and irises around pole barn, so thick most weeds don't have a chance. Seedum gets tall enough I can run my 4 ft JD mower under them withoug much damage because wheels on Jd deck are not at the corners. If I pull a weed, I replace it with wild strawberries. The wild strawberries will even grow in my gravel pit which is yellow sand and rock. They have a nice yellow flower not to mention a nice red berry which I hope animals will eat and plant elsewhere. The strawberry is a ground plant and stays below the other flowers.

The upside to flowers, besides the look nice, is I didn't put rain gutters on barn. I have 1 ft eves on barn and the flowers keep the dirt from getting on siding when it rains. Another advantage is I don't have to weedwack.

The squirrels plant walnut trees in flower beds. So I take a spade and pop them out. Then I discovered that I can plant them in gravel pit under the asian honey suckle, which I hate. The shade keeps them from the heat shock of transplanting. I dig a good hole with backhoe, fill with horse poo mulch, keep watered and in shade. A few years from now, the asain honey will get removed my the roots. I've transplanted about 8 trees so far this year in the summer heat.

I have many things for Jubilee, snow blade, rock rake, cultivator, disk, leveling device and the weeds like to grow around them. So my next mission is to put down used carped to keeps weeds from growing and put implements on carpet.

As for weeds in garden, I bag last years leafs and put on garden. I ran out of leafs, so I let yard get tall, cut grass, let it dry and bag it a day later. Makes nice hay for garden weed control.

Have used wood chips from my tree trimmer in flower beds and sometimes grass clippings.

I don't like weeding.

I had my water softner mess up. Had to remove salt water. I carried salt water out the back door, had a senior moment, dumped water on flowers. Well for 2 years nothing would grow there.

There are other home brews to kill weeds, but none will keep weeds away like salt water does.

I wouldn't be too worried if salt got in my drinking water. So far the EPA hasn't stopped the tons of salt from being put on the roads in the winter. Possible if they learned I use salt water for weed control they might get a wild hair.

I love flowers, have many, if I find one I don't have I buy it. If you ever make it Terre Haute, bring many buckets and I'll give some. Some of my flower beds are 15-20 years old and some flowers are taking over killing others, so I have to dig up some and move them to new locations.

My old gravel pit is getting a make over. I use IH C to move the trails, near the muddy lake, over soft sand, the weeds are dying and native grass is coming back. Moving lake bed dirt to higher ground, use horse poo, and planting excess flowers there. Some day, the gravel pit will heal and look beautiful. Deer like to hang out there too. If I live long enough it will be a nice nature park. Not to mention grandkids use the miles of trails to drive go-cart and the kawasaki mule.
George
George
 
Someone once told me the best way to get a good stand of grass is to spread gravel. Obviously this is not true, but sure seems like it, as I have the same problem, and have to spray my drive 2-3 times a year to keep the weeds and grass down.
 

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