Oil-based primer

woodbutcher

Well-known Member
I've always heard that it's okay to use latex primer, then topcoat with oil-base. I've had a cedar deck for 20 years, and I have to recoat it every 2 or 3 years. I've tried every kind of stain, and the one I like best is a solid-body stain that I roll on like a paint. I only get two years of coverage from it, though, because about half the deck is exposed to full sun. In that area, the stain bubbles up and separates from the surface of the wood. The color I use is almost the same as red-oxide primer. If I primed he bare wood with oil-based primer, Is the latex-based stain likely to adhere better?
Butch
 
I am painting my deck now, Behr outdoor paint.
I am tired of the stain not holding up, so.....I went the paint route. The deck is Cedar and is 9 yrs old now. I have tried every fricken stain, Super deck, Penofin, minwax, ----all useless.
I like the paint the best, solid uniform color.
The only one I have not done is the semi-transparent stain, looks like weak paint.
 
Am in the process of doing mine too!!! Last time it was done was 6 yrs ago, not sure what we used then!!!! This time am using Van Sickle Linseed Oil Semi-Transparent Rich Redwood!!! Yes looks like thin paint but I do like its coverage!! I am thinking that the linseed oil sound be good???????? Guess time will tell!!!!
 
Everything I've ever heard or read says that you can put latex over oil based, but never oil base over latex.
 
At a paint store last year I was told what Dick and David said. The paint store recommended priming or spot priming with oil based primer, then finish coat with Latex.
 
I painted my house with Behr paint stain many years ago, I have to redo every 5-7 years. I have the T1-11 siding.

I think that Sherwin Williams is better than Behr but twice the cost.

What problems did you have, Deck or house vertical siding?
 
I make my own deck preservative, I pressure wash all the old stain off and it will come off,use a deck wash as well. Mixed boiled lindseed oil and varsol,about 40 lindseed/60 varsol. Dissolve paraffin wax into the varsol,then there are several natural colouring agents you can use,I don't use colouring agents. The paraffin must be melted and the varsol stirred into it. This brew will outlast Thompson's water seal,do better,protect better and is cheaper by far. We use it on our stairs to the beach at the cottage on both decks and any outdoor permanent wood fixtures. Several people in our subdivision built new beach stairs ten years ago when we did,three of them have been replacing rotted steps and risers,our stairs are like the day we built them,thanks to boiled lindseed oil and varsol.I won't paint or stain outdoor wood,preservative all the way...just my outlook,only suggesting..do what you guys like. You can Google making your own stain and find all the info to do so.
 
You can put oil based paint or latex paint over either latex or oil based primer. You just can't put latex paint over oil based paint. Personally I think oil based primer is better.
 
Thanks for all replies. I've used the most expensive Olympic stain on my deck, and it didn't last any longer than the cheapest Walmart stain. I liked Sherwin-Williams, but it didn't last any longer than the others. I haven't tried Behr, but it sounds similar.
Butch
 
(quoted from post at 19:14:01 06/26/14) Am in the process of doing mine too!!! Last time it was done was 6 yrs ago, not sure what we used then!!!! This time am using Van Sickle Linseed Oil Semi-Transparent Rich Redwood!!! Yes looks like thin paint but I do like its coverage!! I am thinking that the linseed oil sound be good???????? Guess time will tell!!!!
Linseed oil is great for preserving wood.
 
I like your post. I have alot of old sign painting books and what you posted sounds like something they would mix up in times of old. The basic long lasting elements of the mix never change.
 
Hi Michael, I would like to receive a little more information on the type of perserative that was described in your message. The amounts and your preparation, as I have not had any success with other types advertised. Thanks, Murray
 

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