Chuck (CA)
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Since I'm not that much into guns, I don't know if this is a deal or not. I hear the price of ammo is going up, so I thought I'd share this.
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(quoted from post at 08:24:52 03/22/14) I would bet ( taking into consideration whats going on)that the ATF is watching who is also getting bulk amounts of ammo.
(quoted from post at 16:10:33 03/22/14) Hi Rich,
The unimaginably extensive surveillance of U.S. citizens didn't really take off until after the USA Patriot Act was signed into law on October 26th, 2001. That was the previous president. The current president signed a 4 year extension of the most abusive surveillance related provisions of the Act on May 26th, 2011.
You say nobody seems to care. My question is, if we care, what are we supposed to do? It's clear to me that neither of the two major parties is interested in doing anything to lessen the power that the federal government has over its citizens. If you think the answer lies with one of the nut job third parties, then there's really no use talking about it---one of us is delusional, and we undoubtedly also hold different opinions about which one of us it is.
Stan
(quoted from post at 20:07:38 03/24/14) I'm ashamed of myself.
Stan
greed i just don't like people passing the buck.Saying external_link is a bad president because of bush is B.S.He is a bad president by his own doings nobody else. Don't defend your vote that way, you screwed up just admit it(for those suckers who voted for him)!(quoted from post at 17:25:49 03/26/14) Lets face it Bush and external_link pretty much are cut from the same cloth when it comes to individual rights-they don't believe in them.Bush was wrong to have Patriot Act passed and external_link is wrong to continue it.So they both get my vote as crummy Presidents.
(quoted from post at 13:43:40 03/27/14)I originally jumped into this dogfight when Rich said that external_link was destroying the country and nobody seemed to care.
(quoted from post at 17:47:02 03/27/14) Rich,
You've got an ugly personality, a mean spirit, and you seem sort of unhinged. My life will be just a tiny bit better if I never read another thing you write---so I'm not going to.
Bye.
(quoted from post at 11:45:01 03/22/14)
Its all but a certainty, Snowden shed light an what was already suspected for years. 30 days of complete phone conversations and you are not sure they are cataloging purchases like firearms and ammo? You can count on it.
http://news.yahoo.com/nsa-record-nation-every-single-phone-call-keep-230008855.html
[size=18:7e29678338][color=red:7e29678338][i:7e29678338][b:7e29678338]Bummer is taking us back to 1984 and nobody seems to care...[/b:7e29678338][/i:7e29678338][/color:7e29678338][/size:7e29678338]
(quoted from post at 11:43:40 03/27/14) You're right, Bret, but those things are easier said than done. Do you remember that John McCain tried to make campaign reform the centerpiece of his 2000 presidential campaign bid? He meant it, too. It got him nowhere, or worse. Campaign reform was conspicuously absent from his platform in 2008, and he came reasonably close to becoming president.
All the changes that need to occur in this country are things that evolve, not things that can be mandated. Well, actually they can be mandated, but usually only after a revolution, and the number of revolutions that have turned out well is very, very low.
I originally jumped into this dogfight when Rich said that external_link was destroying the country and nobody seemed to care. I said I cared, but what can a person do? That got me labeled an external_link lover. I may have supported external_link in 2008 out of a combination of revulsion for how far down the road to plutocracy we'd come in eight years, and simplistic wishful thinking, but I hold him equally culpable now. Someone who decided long ago that there's no hope from either party may have the right to criticize me, but nobody who supported Bush does.
Stan
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