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on one of our commodes the flapper sometimes will not seat completely when flushed. if we do not pay attention to it then it will overflow the commode and run water out into the floor. the flapper was replaced about three months ago. the chain for the flapper has very little slack so it is not causing this. if you bump the handle most of the time it will reseat correctly. am i going to have to replace the seat for the flapper to fix or is there something else that will help? thanks for the help.

frank
 
(quoted from post at 14:32:04 01/10/14) on one of our commodes the flapper sometimes will not seat completely when flushed. if we do not pay attention to it then it will overflow the commode and run water out into the floor. the flapper was replaced about three months ago. the chain for the flapper has very little slack so it is not causing this. if you bump the handle most of the time it will reseat correctly. am i going to have to replace the seat for the flapper to fix or is there something else that will help? thanks for the help.

frank
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very little slack" may not be enough slack. Look at the seat to see if you can find erosion of the seating edge. If you do, probably need to replace. By the way, you likely have other sewer problem too, as it shouldn't overflow onto floor, the excess water should simply run down the sewer.
 
You have more then one problem. A toilet should never over flow no matter what since it is a over full the flush set up so once it fills to a point it should start flowing out the drain.
As for the flapper chain it needs a good inch or so of slack or it will not let the flap move as it needs to
 
As the others had said your toilet should not overflow unless there is a blockage in the drain. Possibly a venting problem?

I had a flapper that was ruined by a bleach tab. Wife put it in there to keep the toilet clean but in a month or 2 it was leaking. There appeared to be nothing wrong with the old one but a new flap and no bleach tab cured it.
 
A vents main purpose is to keep traps from siphoning, you have a drain restriction. a water closet has the after fill tube to refill trap.
 
did you know there was a class action law suit against the makers of that bleach tab. it ruined a lot of flapper seals including mine. that was about 10 years ago.
 
the toilet itself will overflow if the trap in the toilet is plugged. then there will be no place for the water to go but out onto the floor.If the flapper does not seat when flushed it will continue to run water and if you do not catch the problem and live on a septic tank it can fill the tank and back up into the house,usually in a shower or bathtub.If you live on city sewer it will do the same thing when it backs up.I think you have a problem within the toilet itself.
 
If you do not flush enough water down the sewer pipe, chances are that the drain pipe cloggs.

The new 1 1/2 gal.. flush commodes can cause this to happen. Therefore, you maight replace the flush valve with one that you can adjust.

American Standard flapper valves need to have the float adjusted to give enough flush water to keep the sewer line from eventally clogging with solids.

The chain mechanism should be adjusted to allow more water to flow after flushing solids.

John,PA
 
Had one flapper that was all rubber, had enough play that it sometimes wouldn't seat right, replaced it with one that had a hard plastic hinge, problem went away. As others have said if it's overflowing the problem isn't in the toilet, it's down stream, it's overflowing 'cause the water isn't leaving. The flapper will let it run forever or until your water supply gives out but a a slow enough pace that it'll pass through unless somethings plugged up
 
Make sure you have the right flapper for your make of commode. My neighbor across the street from me had this problem and she never paid any attention to the water running and had a $400.00 water bill and your sewage bill is based on the amount of water used. Never heard what the sewage bill was. As been mentioned you have blockage somewhere. Hal
 
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