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JOB

01-08-2014 17:00:37




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I know this has been brought up several times before.

My sister got a pacemaker just before Christmas and the doctor told her to stay away from arc welders and running gas car engines. I don't know how she will drive one unless the sheet metal around the engine protects the pacemaker. I would guess it would be the modern gas engines with all the electronics.




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hayshaker5

01-10-2014 18:00:19




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 Re: pacemakers in reply to JOB, 01-08-2014 17:00:37  
I had a pacemaker/defibrillator put in 2010. The Dr. said stay back from certain glass stovetops and arc welders. I asked him about chainsaws and he said don"t hold it that close to your chest. He said not to put cell phone in left shirt pocket. One day I was picking up nails after we put a new roof on the house with grinder/mixer magnet I mounted on lawn mower wheels and a handle. I was scraping nails off of it and without thinking knealt down beside it. The pacemaker alarm went off and for a second wondered where that "beep" was coming from. Got away from it and it stopped. Made sure I didn"t kneel beside it again.

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William Fissell

01-09-2014 09:50:23




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 Re: pacemakers in reply to JOB, 01-08-2014 17:00:37  
The issue is that any repetitive pulsing electric field might trick the pacemaker into thinking the heart is pacing itself again and thus turn off. This is the real reason why pacers and MRIs don't mix.

A modern car should be no problem. An arc welder would make me nervous as most have a duty cycle and will be emitting a pulsing field. I wouldn't lean over a distributor, either.



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john *.?-!.* cub owner

01-09-2014 08:36:53




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 Re: pacemakers in reply to JOB, 01-08-2014 17:00:37  
The Dr. said GAS car engines, not cars. The danger from a gas engine is the ignition. The pacemaker is located just under the skin of her chest with leads running to her heart, and an spark jumping to it could be fatal.



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JOB

01-09-2014 09:41:30




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 Re: pacemakers in reply to john *.?-!.* cub owner, 01-09-2014 08:36:53  
Not knowing how a pacemaker works looks like I made a wrong guess.



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hwess

01-09-2014 05:52:09




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 Re: pacemakers in reply to JOB, 01-08-2014 17:00:37  
Have mine for 3 years. Can weld but don't stand near the buzz box. Work on tractors and cars, but don't lean over the generator when running. No problems so far.



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Jon M. Bottum

01-08-2014 19:22:37




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 Re: pacemakers in reply to JOB, 01-08-2014 17:00:37  
I'm on my second pacemaker and have had one for 8 years. I was told no welding, no chainsaws, no gas string trimmers and no backpack leaf blowers. Microwaves, lawn mowers and car driving are ok.



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Davis SC

01-08-2014 19:07:24




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 Re: pacemakers in reply to JOB, 01-08-2014 17:00:37  
Got mine 4 weeks ago today.. Feeling good, Twice the energy I had.. They say no welding, but there are tricks that are supposed to make it OK. Personally, I do not plan to do anymore welding.. My health and safety are more valuable to me. I am friends with a man that is an expert in the area of electrical waves, he is going to come and test the machines at my machine shop to be sure they are safe for me to run.

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Davis SC

01-08-2014 19:12:50




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 Re: pacemakers in reply to Davis SC, 01-08-2014 19:07:24  
Most cars are OK, I think.. Some say the Toyota Prius is not safe, not sure if true. I was just told not to stand right over, as in leaning over a running engine. I was allowed to drive after one week... Just said be careful, no sudden moves, until things heal up well.



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JOB

01-09-2014 17:57:39




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 Re: pacemakers in reply to Davis SC, 01-08-2014 19:12:50  
Sisters instructions said not to lean over a running gas engine, talked to her today. Otherwise OK to be around them. Doc. might not have though about the weed whip, gas powered leaf blower and other small gas engines for property maintenance. As mentioned by another guy here.



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Jim in Ma.

01-08-2014 18:56:17




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 Re: pacemakers in reply to JOB, 01-08-2014 17:00:37  
My wife got a pace maker just after Thanksgiving. Doc said she can drive now.



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Ted in NE-OH

01-08-2014 18:08:51




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 Re: pacemakers in reply to JOB, 01-08-2014 17:00:37  
I would check with the manufacturer. Technology changes and improvements are made and the doctor may not be up to date on the latest technology.



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David G

01-08-2014 17:03:37




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 Re: pacemakers in reply to JOB, 01-08-2014 17:00:37  
I would believe a tractor with points, mechanical regulator and copper plug wires is way noisier than a modern car.



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Billpa

01-09-2014 07:10:37




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 Re: pacemakers in reply to David G, 01-08-2014 17:03:37  
I had a heart bypass and was told not to drive for a certain time , well years later I asked Dc why , she said in case you get in an accident , go figure



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