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howdy1960

01-08-2014 09:34:13
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All I know is a 66 Plymouth Fury 4 Dr I had was all steel, had a 2bbl carb and points with a 318ci engine. It got about 25 MPG at 60-65 MPH. AND I COULD fix it myself. My 95 Mazda B2300 P/U with all it's 'improvements' gets about 25 MPG at 60-65 MPH and I CANT fix it myself. At least I can carry more hay with the P/U lol




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ss55

01-08-2014 11:52:09
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 Re: Regulations - Poof? in reply to howdy1960, 01-08-2014 09:34:13  
12 to 15 MPG would be more realistic for the 1960's full size cars that I drove with small v-8s and automatic transmissions.



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Ron-MO

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 Re: Regulations - Poof? in reply to ss55, 01-08-2014 11:52:09  
Add another to the list of people that used to get 20 plus MPG with one of the old big heavy cars. In this case 66 4 door Impala - 283 2 Barrel, with powerglide. Not a lot of excess power at the low end, but good mpg, reliable. Many 4 cylinders cannot do much better today. I do have a 98 4 door Camry that does about 32, but it is a 4 cylinder as well. Not much improvement in the grand scheme of things and all the supposed efficent designs of the past few years. Years ago there was an article on a project using a 70 Monte Carlo with a 350 engine. If memory serves it did nearly 30 MPG on the highway. Small 4 barrel carb, headers, high axle ratio, but still ran well in a drag race. I put a similar carb on a Chevelle (basically same car), and got mid 20 MPG routinely. Wondering what fuel injection would do? I am convinced that I DO NOT want to go back to carbs and chokes. I still remember stuck chokes, flooded engines, etc all too well in the cold months.

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NCWayne

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 Re: Regulations - Poof? in reply to ss55, 01-08-2014 11:52:09  
I drove a "55 Chevy 2dr wagon for a lot of years. It had a high performance 283 with a decent cam and a 4 bbl Holley spread bore carb with mechinacal secondaries, backed by a 4 speed transmission, and if I remember right I was running a 3:53 gear in the rear. That said when I was doing a lot of highway driving I routinely got 20 plus mpg. Around town I didn"t get much less, as long as I wasn"t racing around and kept the back two (larger) barrels closed.

As was stated earlier, for those of us that could work on out older cars, and afford to keep them properly tuned up, getting the same, or better MPG than a modern fuel injected car, was more the norm rather than a rarity.

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da.bees

01-08-2014 12:44:28
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 Re: Regulations - Poof? in reply to ss55, 01-08-2014 11:52:09  

ss55 Re: Regulations - Poof? in reply to howdy1960, 01-08-2014 09:34:13 "12 to 15 MPG would be more realistic for the 1960's full size cars that I drove with small v-8s and automatic transmissions."

12 to 15 mpg was indeed realistic when full sized cars weren't well tuned and maintained. But like Howdy,I knew how to repair and maintaine my 1965 Chevy SS327 Impala that got well above 20mpg at 70 to 75mph with air conditioner on. Different strokes for different folks. Those who kept cars well maintained like Howdy saved money AND did thier part to control polution where those in ss55's camp chose to boost oil sales and spew the results out their exhust pipes.

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rossowmn

01-08-2014 13:10:28
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 Re: Regulations - Poof? in reply to da.bees, 01-08-2014 12:44:28  
I still have my '57 Chevy coupe with a 283 Carter four-barrel. Back when I used to drive it more, I could consistently get around 22 mpg on the highway if I avoided opening up the secondary barrels.



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