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Re: dc stick welding

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12-24-2013 08:10:33
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To the OP: 6011 is actually an AC rod but it will burn quite well on DC electrode + as well. 6011 is far from a child's rod. It is the AC cousin to DC only 6010 rod. You need 6010 for code work (or 6011 for non code work) is a must have rod for pipe. Course hacks like me use its attributes for old farm equipment that is dirty rusty etc. that can not be cleaned properly- and for its max penetration qualities. It is sometimes necessary to root pass with 6011 and then cap it with 7014 or 7018AC for backyard work.

6010 or 6011 is usually the most difficult rod for a newbie to run. I struggle with it sometimes.

I would call 6013 child's rod, but its limited penetration qualities still has its uses especially if you do not have a wire feeder. Some 5/64" 6013 is not too bad to use on thin sheet metal if no wire feeder available. I do like how 6013 is easy to shape with handheld power tools if doing parts build up. I do not like how 6013 can be prone to wormholing.
7014 is even more so child's play and almost welds all by itself

and many people call it idiot rod for that very reason. I like 7014 real well and 7014 might be the one and only rod that actually burns better on AC as compared to DC.

7018: I would skip unless you have a real nice welder.

7018AC: Will typically burn better on any of the home owner class of buzzboxes - almost mandatory on an AC only buzzbox but likely to run better as well on DC on an AC/DC buzzbox type machine (brands make a difference on this rod too) (and they should be stored in a rod oven).

Forgot to say that you should likely need less amps on your welder with 6011 than 7018 for same rod diameter size so you likely running way hot.
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T in NE

12-25-2013 15:28:57
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 Re: dc stick welding in reply to rankrank1, 12-24-2013 08:10:33  
Yes, if you are after AC7018, spend the few extra bucks on the American-made stuff. I picked up a box for a project once, and the lady at the Airgas counter said to get the other one, the Mexicans haven't figured out good AC rod yet. Both boxes were the same brand.



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