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Re: Wiring a diesel barrel pump

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John in La

11-29-2013 09:36:41

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I found this pdf file from Nebraska you might want to read threw because Iowa uses the same rules.

661—51.203(101) Storage in isolated areas. NFPA 395, “Standard for the Storage of Flammable and Combustible Liquids at Farms and Isolated Sites,” 1993 edition, is adopted by reference as the rules governing flammable and combustible liquids on farms and isolated construction projects.

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11-29-2013 11:29:52

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 Re: Wiring a diesel barrel pump in reply to John in La, 11-29-2013 09:36:41  
Thanks for posting the rules. Maybe I can call it a supply tank for a heater. LOL. It's also sitting flat on the ground and I knew this was not good but when I moved it there it had finally run empty so I could do it safely but I needed to get it refilled right away because I was in the middle of field work and needed the fuel. So I plopped it there and planned to put it up on blocks next spring or summer or whenever it runs empty again. It also looks like the tank is too close to the lane of traffic, according to the rules.
I know it's too close to the shop. I was more worried about the shop catching fire and setting the tank off than the other way. It's much more likely to happen that way. Like I said I placed it there more as a convenience than for safety. After reading a couple of your posts I started running through my mind where I could locate it 40' away and still have it in a fairly handy location but not in the way of anything and have it accessable for a tractor with wide equipment hooked to it, or a combine with a 40' head. Well, I can't do anything about location right now so it will be where it is but like you say, if I want it done right I'll need to move it. Jim

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John in La

11-29-2013 12:31:27

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 Re: Wiring a diesel barrel pump in reply to fixerupper, 11-29-2013 11:29:52  
I did not post the rules to say......
Hey you got it wrong and need to do something now!!

It was more so you could consider the rules and then decide what is best for you and your farm. There is no point in going threw the expense of wiring the tank threw conduit all nice and proper now and then move the tank next summer. So if you decide to move it next summer based on the rules you could make a educated decision to leave the wiring farmerized till you could move it.

Yes the rules work both ways. It is more likely that a spark from working around the shop; shop fire; ect is going to catch the tank on fire than the other way around. That is why the rules are so lax on farm tanks. Space between a ignition source. Calling it a heater supply tank; water heater or grain dryer supply brings in more rules. NFPA31

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11-29-2013 13:03:37

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 Re: Wiring a diesel barrel pump in reply to John in La, 11-29-2013 12:31:27  
John I did not take it that you said I should do it right away. Sorry if I made it sound that way. It never hurts to post the rules. Now this got me to thinking. If I had a fire in the shop that set the tank off and a fireman got hurt in the explosion I can see the lawyers's mouths watering. My son's a fireman so I do have a personal interest, not that I shouldn't anyway.
Accidents can happen around a fuel barrel for sure. My neighbor was fueling his Allis 190XT diesel. The fuel tank is behind the cab and my neighbor put the nozzle in the tank and walked away for a minute. In that minute's time his dad got in the 190 and drove away with the nozzle still in the tank. Neighbor came back to see his dad driving across the yard dragging the hose and fuel spraying out of the broken off fitting on the fuel pump. There was no fire, but the yard wasn't dusty there for awhile. Have a good one. Jim

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11-29-2013 16:13:33

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 Final photo in reply to fixerupper, 11-29-2013 13:03:37  
Here it is. I don't like cobbled wiring. Now the birds have a couple of places to roost. LOL When (if) the barrel is moved next summer the flex cable can be taken out of the disconnect and reconnected into a box at the new location. Getting that sucker screwed into the fitting and snaking the wires in under the fuel pump was a bugger. Frozen fingers didn't help matters. I won't have to do that again, thank god. I wanted to go down the wall with the wiring to the light pole and underground to the pole but we're frozen now. The camera lens on the cell phone was a dirty mess. Didn't realize it till I previewed the pic on the compuker.

The LED yard light does a very good job within 20 feet of the pole. I can see to read 30 feet away. Its 18 feet off the ground. I can see to walk 100 feet away but I don't plan to read a book that far away from the light. It does have a refractor lense and it's too bright to look at within 50 feet or so. Jim

This post was edited by fixerupper at 16:17:05 11/29/13.

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