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Heyseed

11-19-2013 00:20:09
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What would be an average range for a modern compound bow shooting broad-heads? Got a neighbor kid that is allowed to hunt near my house. I was working in the driveway and saw something up in the woods, turns out he had set up a tree stand about 50 yards from my door. Too close for my comfort, I made him move it. He also gun hunts and I don't want him getting comfortable there. This mountain has plenty of room to hunt on.

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tg in VA

11-19-2013 18:15:14
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 Re: OT Hunting tool in reply to Heyseed, 11-19-2013 00:20:09  
I think the fact the kid cussed your neighbor out is pretty telling...looks to me like a disaster in the making...watch yourself, you might become an unwitting statistic.



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wile E

11-19-2013 15:43:36
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 Re: OT Hunting tool in reply to Heyseed, 11-19-2013 00:20:09  
Shooting a firearm towards a dwelling is a felony.....Yep. Common sense should be observed at all times when discharging a firearm, including compound bows. But, as we know common sense is not always used when hunters are on the prowl for venison. And, Of course permission has to be granted by the land owner for a person to hunt there, if not then it is trespassing. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

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Bret4207

11-20-2013 04:14:14
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 Re: OT Hunting tool in reply to wile E, 11-19-2013 15:43:36  

wile E said: (quoted from post at 16:43:36 11/19/13) Shooting a firearm towards a dwelling is a felony.....Yep.
Common sense should be observed at all times when discharging a firearm, including compound bows. But, as we know common sense is not always used when hunters are on the prowl for venison. And, Of course permission has to be granted by the land owner for a person to hunt there, if not then it is trespassing. Someone correct me if I am wrong.


Depends on the state and exact circumstances. Deliberately shooting at a building you know to be occupied may be a Felony, a stray arrow striking an unoccupied dwelling probably won't be, but it will likely be a Misdemeanor. One thing people have to remember is that what is okay in one state may be completely illegal in another or what may be the minimum distance in one state may be well outside the distance in another. If you want to know the FACTS find the laws in your state or call the appropriate LE agency and ask.

And, a bow of any kind is not a firearm. I know what you mean but a bow is not a firearm anymore than a tractor is a car.
This post was edited by Bret4207 at 04:15:34 11/20/13.

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fergienewbee

11-19-2013 11:49:38
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 Re: OT Hunting tool in reply to Heyseed, 11-19-2013 00:20:09  
Dusty;

All it says is you must have written or verbal permission before hunting on farmlands, connected woodlots or any posted private land. I think posted is the key word. IMO that would apply to shooting from one property into another. It does state: "If you wound an animal or bird and it runs onto private property you have no legal right to pursue it without permission of the landowner and would be subject to prosecution. Hunters are required to produce their hunting license to the landowner on request."

Larry

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NYCamper62

11-19-2013 10:25:03
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 Re: OT Hunting tool in reply to Heyseed, 11-19-2013 00:20:09  
NY also has the 500 rule unless you own, lease or have permission. I like to Bowhunt and have my pins set at 20, 30, & 40. Farthest shot checked with rangefinder so far has been 35, but taken most deer under 30 yards.



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Heyseed

11-19-2013 09:02:55
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 Re: OT Hunting tool in reply to Heyseed, 11-19-2013 00:20:09  
Thanks guys, I was pretty sure about the answer, just have not shot a bow in ages. I don't own the land but have rented here for 20 years. The land owner only lets this kid and his uncle hunt it. I say kid but he is 30 +/- years old. Their grandfather was good friends with the woman who owns the place. The uncle only uses the pond to drown some worms these days, but the kid has been getting bolder. He got caught on the neighbors land last year and cussed the guy out. A good apology was the only thing that kept him from losing his privileges. He did the right thing this time and moved the stand the day after I sent him a message that it was too close. Maybe he is getting smarter.

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DaninKansas

11-19-2013 07:57:53
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 Re: OT Hunting tool in reply to Heyseed, 11-19-2013 00:20:09  
Is it on your property?



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old

11-19-2013 07:38:53
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 Re: OT Hunting tool in reply to Heyseed, 11-19-2013 00:20:09  
50 yards is said to be about the range for a good kill shot for deer with a bow. But if you fire it at say a 46 degree angle up it can and will fly for well over 200 yards or more. Neighbor but head did that. He was pulling his bow back and hit the trigger on his hold device and I found his arrow well over 200 yards from his stand but then again he was a good 300 feet higher then my field also



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Sean Feeney

11-19-2013 06:35:12
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 Re: OT Hunting tool in reply to Heyseed, 11-19-2013 00:20:09  
MA law 500' from dwelling I think 50 Yds is too close

I see by your IP address its Maryland
shows For archery hunters this distance is 100 yards in Harford County and 50 yards in Carroll and Frederick counties.

http://www.eregulations.com/maryland/hunting/unlawful-activites/

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NoNewParts

11-19-2013 04:47:54
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 Re: OT Hunting tool in reply to Heyseed, 11-19-2013 00:20:09  
like Bret said.

remember, bows were invented as a LONG range weapon.

at 50 yards, covering the target shot pattern with your fist is pretty routine with a good bow and archer.

(long-range, out-shooting the smoothbore slug, no optics shotgun guys at the range is always fun)
again, tree stand hunting is always safer if he is anywhere near you.

I don't like taking shots with a bow at all on the ground.

Arrows 'skip' off the ground very easily and then go a very long way.
This post was edited by NoNewParts at 04:52:44 11/19/13.

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fergienewbee

11-19-2013 04:33:33
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 Re: OT Hunting tool in reply to Heyseed, 11-19-2013 00:20:09  
Michigan has a 150 yard safety zone. "Safety zones are all areas within 150 yards (450 feet)of an occupied building, house, cabin, or any barn or other structure used in a farm operation. No person, including archery and crossbow hunters, may hunt or discharge a firearm, crossbow, or bow in a safety zone or shoot at any wild animal or wild bird within a safety zone, without the written permission of the owner or occupant of the property. ...." Rule does not apply to target practice, law enforcement or other non-hunting purposes.

Larry

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Dusty MI

11-19-2013 06:16:09
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 Re: OT Hunting tool in reply to fergienewbee, 11-19-2013 04:33:33  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see

Larry, is there anything in the Mi game law about setting up a stand close to a property line, or hunting close to that line?

Thanks,

Dusty



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TomH in PA

11-19-2013 15:35:56
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 Re: OT Hunting tool in reply to Dusty MI, 11-19-2013 06:16:09  
You can"t shoot across a property line unless you have permission to hunt on that property. Nor can you enter it to track a wounded animal.

It's very simple: the owner decides who has permission. Period.
This post was edited by TomH in PA at 15:40:17 11/19/13.



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Bret4207

11-19-2013 04:08:37
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 Re: OT Hunting tool in reply to Heyseed, 11-19-2013 00:20:09  
Back in the early 70's, well before the day of the compound bow, we used to shoot from our house at an old bill board 300 yards away. We could hit it regularly with practice. So that should tell you more than you want to know. Thing is, if the kid is shooting from a tree stand, he's shooting downwards usually. The question isn't how close, but what direction is he aiming and at what degree of down or up or level if it's hilly. He shouldn't be shooting towards houses at all, but he shouldn't have set a stand up 50 yards from your house in the first place IMO. That's just bad manners.

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