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willie in mn

11-09-2013 01:04:05
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Time to educate your insurance agent. Every pellet/corn burning stove I have seem has a sealed burn pot, with "piped in" outside combustion air. If installed according to instructions, it is as safe as any other heating device. Even approved for mobil homes.
As for cost, with a thermostat capable of a lower setting, propane might be cheaper. I heat the house mainly with pellets. It is in central Mn, started as a log cabin, with 4 additions, not really energy efficient. At the lowest setting it gives approx 40 rise above outside temp, burns a bag of pellets a day. Pellet prices vary from $3.99 to $4.95 a bag, depending on where I shop & if I buy 1 or 50 at a time.
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Rich_WI

11-10-2013 09:53:41
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 Re: Heating shop in reply to willie in mn, 11-09-2013 01:04:05  
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The older pellet stoves used room air. The combustion fan was right at the bottom of the stove, pulling air just above floor level. There is a reason insurance companies wouldnt cover garages and outbuildings that had them installed... because they had a high rate of burning the buildings down. Gas fumes can become a powerful beast.

Like rd 2N in mo mentioned, code usually says 18 inches above the floor and sometimes as high as 48 inches above the floor but insurance companies many times just cancel because the risk is too great. Corn stoves and pellet stoves are a nitch market (low percentage of houses) that are many times homeowner installed. Thats too big of a risk due to uneducated installers and homeowners saying "ya, that will work".

A quick google search shows that the old style, room air feed systems are still being sold, at least the website for them is still active. http://www.bucknercornstoves.com/ Many other companies copy that design, its a very simple stove so its impossible to fully patent.

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36 coupe

11-14-2013 04:18:32
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 Re: Heating shop in reply to Rich_WI, 11-10-2013 09:53:41  
An oil furnace can pull in gasoline fumes.Most garages are sharp enough to to do gas tank work outdoors.Pellet stoves will push oil heat aside.I saw a ton of pellets for 200.00 yesterday.You can buy pellets by the bag here.You can stock up in summer.Pellet stove pay off in 2 years.An insurance co that wont insure wood heat homes wont have many customers left.



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Dr. Walt

11-09-2013 23:28:22
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 Re: Heating shop in reply to willie in mn, 11-09-2013 01:04:05  
I agree Willie; my neighbor who is a Cabinet Maker has a pellet stove in his 36'x 48' wood-working shop which has wooden floors - NO PROBLEMS . Keeps his shop toasty warm on the coldest of days.



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PJH

11-09-2013 05:37:34
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 Re: Heating shop in reply to willie in mn, 11-09-2013 01:04:05  
Insurance agents are scared of wood heat and dogs. They can cancel you if you have either. No rational explanation needed from them. You have to play their little game or switch to another agent, and good luck with that. It's frustrating to try to "educate" someone who's never had a stick of firewood in his hands.



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36 coupe

11-09-2013 03:55:18
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 Re: Heating shop in reply to willie in mn, 11-09-2013 01:04:05  
My son in law put in a pellet stove last year,didnt use a drop of oil.Friend put one in several years ago.He used 1 bag a day.100 gallons of fuel oil can cost 360.00.Dealers require 100 gallon minimum.Dealer we buy from will supply less.Pellets can be bought a bag at a time.Easy to store and you can buy them when you have the money.I ran out of oil in April a few years ago.Oil dealers have fixed delivery days here.Theres a general store close to me but the clown who was running it had no kerosene, no off road diesel, no road diesel.I called a dealer who had a wed delivery day.He wouldnt take a check,only cash.We had 135.00 in cash,wasnt enough, he wouldnt stop.My regular dealer had his truck broke down with a bad differential.I drove to a general store and bought 5 gallons of off road diesel.I see a lot of people buying off road diesel 5 gallons at a time because they dont have 400 bucks to buy a minimum order of fuel.Local oil dealers are making a lot of people switch to pellet stoves.I used to keep a 50 gallon drum of kerosene until the price went to 4 bucks a gallon.

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