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Re: Enviromental concerns updates

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allisanddodge

09-27-2013 18:10:26
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I don"t know much about all this climate stuff, but I do know one thing- All the talk about millions & billions of years ago is a bunch of nonsense. It was approx. 2000 yrs. from the creation to the flood. About another 2000 from the flood until the birth of Christ. Now here we are at 2013. NOTHING is much over 6000 yrs. old.




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Inno

09-28-2013 19:05:04
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 Re: Enviromental concerns updates in reply to allisanddodge, 09-27-2013 18:10:26  

allisanddodge said: (quoted from post at 20:10:26 09/27/13) I don"t know much about all this climate stuff, but I do know one thing- All the talk about millions & billions of years ago is a bunch of nonsense. It was approx. 2000 yrs. from the creation to the flood. About another 2000 from the flood until the birth of Christ. Now here we are at 2013. NOTHING is much over 6000 yrs. old.


Wow..........really? I'm floored to think that in this day and age there are still people around who think that way. With all that science has PROVEN about our world and it's age........I'm sure that a few lines written here will do nothing to change an opinion that is firmly based in..........hmm......fact? Fable? A great story with many applicable life lessons? No matter what your faith, I'm sure there should be a little consideration given to the idea that maybe the people who wrote the information you are speaking of lived in a pretty simple time and perhaps they took some things at face value that we know to be false today. Lets face it, what choice did they have?

Perhaps it would suffice to say that the bible was written using the best information available to the authors at the time.
This post was edited by Inno at 19:08:11 09/28/13.

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MarkB_MI

09-29-2013 03:15:16
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 Re: Enviromental concerns updates in reply to Inno, 09-28-2013 19:05:04  
> Perhaps it would suffice to say that the bible was written using the best information available to the authors at the time.

Well said. If you could somehow transport one of those authors to modern times, bring him up to speed on what we know today, then explain that there are folks who take what he wrote as literal truth, I'm sure that old-timer would be shocked. "Hey guys, we were trying to make sense of the world around us using what we had to go with."

You have to realize that most of the things in the Bible and other ancient religious manuscripts were not at odds with how people understood the world to be. They didn't understand germs and infection. Thunder and lightning were not known to be electrical phenomena (since electricity had yet to be discovered). Likewise with volcanoes, earthquakes, comets and meteors. That these things were supernatural events was a quite reasonable explanation.

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MarkB_MI

09-28-2013 02:43:36
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 Re: Enviromental concerns updates in reply to allisanddodge, 09-27-2013 18:10:26  
Don't get out much, do you?



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Stan in Oly, WA

09-28-2013 16:04:06
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 Re: Enviromental concerns updates in reply to MarkB_MI, 09-28-2013 02:43:36  
You can get out plenty and still believe almost anything if you've got your mind made up and keep tightly focused on that.

A few years back I read an article where someone was quoted as saying that Americans are more proud of their beliefs than of their abilities (or something along those lines). Pretty depressing. It's like living alongside the Taliban.

Stan



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allisanddodge

09-28-2013 17:22:43
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 Re: Enviromental concerns updates in reply to Stan in Oly, WA, 09-28-2013 16:04:06  
Not PROUD of any belief, just someone thankful to be saved by grace-not by works lest any man should boast-who believes what the Bible says. "Why do the heathen rage?"



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Rich_WI

09-28-2013 11:18:15
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 Re: Enviromental concerns updates in reply to MarkB_MI, 09-28-2013 02:43:36  
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Cool, you are trying to cover all of them, arent you?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

Are you trying to cover them all on a single political post? Between this thread and the other one, you are close to setting a record....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies

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John in La

09-27-2013 18:48:08
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 Re: Enviromental concerns updates in reply to allisanddodge, 09-27-2013 18:10:26  
You may have forgot a few zeros.
China is said to be 10,000 yrs old and Mesopotamia dates back to at least 10,000 BC.
They have also found early human remains dated at 3.2 million years ago.



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