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Re: enviromental concerns ?

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oldtanker

09-27-2013 13:26:02
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Mark, do you even look at this thing called the news? Couple of years ago the big wig climatologist in England got caught red handed lying about global warming. Then again about 2 or 3 weeks ago they were caught placing thermometers in places likely to be several degrees warmer than the average for an area. And then just the other day they were yet again caught fudging the numbers. And I'm supposed to believe them? I'm supposed to believe NASA who's budget has been slashed when they are trying to get the current administration to give them more? The same administration that been pushing global warming/climate change? Gee that's not too hard to figure out. I want more money for space research and the folks with control of the senate and the Oval Office want evidence of climate change? HMMMM should I lie for the money or tell the truth and get even less?
OK there is pollution. Guess what? If you really research it, the air pollution problem in CA is not eternal combustion engines. It's factory emissions. Factories in CA put out well over 50% of your air pollution. Why doesn't the state of CA address this you may ask. Most of the offenders are smaller companies that can't afford the scrubber needed to clean them up. Forcing them to buy them would put a bunch out of business. That would mean workers without a job, millions of them if they close most of the small manufacturing plants in CA. That would cause CA to go over the edge. News about CA would read like news about Detroit.

Mark, you cannot make a decision on things like this without looking at all the sources and their actions. Good ole Al Gore made millions on carbon credits Obama's first year in office. If I remembered correctly something like 7.5 mil in his pocket. At the time Gore ran against Bush the Bush TX home had solar panels, geothermal heat/cooling and many other expensive environmentally friendly features, Al Gores multiple homes had none.

Rick

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MarkB_MI

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 Re: enviromental concerns ? in reply to oldtanker, 09-27-2013 13:26:02  
Tanker, I've said it twice before in this thread, and I'll say it once again: If we can't agree on the basic facts of this issue, that is, that temperatures and CO2 levels are rising, then we can't have much of a discussion. Never mind the source of your information, do you dispute that global temperatures and CO2 levels are rising? If so, I might as well be speaking ancient Sumerian because we ain't gonna connect. If not, then let's discuss further.

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