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Re: BD, How does the transfer box with the few breakers work?

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buickanddeere

07-26-2013 09:33:07
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Ol'John T knows as much or more than I do on the topic
The Reliance unit listed is a 200amp feed through transfer switch to be located outside. anywhere between the utility meter and the building service panel. The four full size or eight half size breakers are just there to be handy if power is required right at the transfer switch for portable lights, kilowat frequency meter etc. These feed through panels energize the existing building panel as if the utility service was being used. Just flip off a few breakers if a small gen set is being used. Beats having a rats nest of extension cords running through a door or window. Keeps the gen set away from the building so CO is not drifting inside. Less noise too. Also keeps all the lights on which draw very little current. Not a fan of tripping in the dark because a four circuit transfer panel is being used. The ground is never switched . There should be at least one ground rod bonded at every service,transfer panel or building entrance. As most transfer switches are set up not to switch the neutral and use a floating neutral generator. The neutral should not have any contact with ground except at the power meter/1st service panel.

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John T

07-26-2013 10:06:52
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 Re: BD, How does the transfer box with the few breakers work? in reply to buickanddeere, 07-26-2013 09:33:07  
Yeppers, looks (as usual) like were on the same track. You used to have a link or picture of those cheap sliding lock outs that suffice as a sort of trasnsfer method when a breaker was being used to backfeed the main panel and if it was turned on the main breaker had to be necessarily turned off i.e. NO WAY BOTH COULD BE ON AT SAME TIME....to prevent backfeed....

Now you got me using the term FLOATING NEUTRAL also lol

Sorry we didnt meet again at New York Expo, maybe in 2 years I will make the pilgrimage

John T

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Dusty MI

07-26-2013 10:13:32
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 Re: BD, How does the transfer box with the few breakers work in reply to John T, 07-26-2013 10:06:52  
There is an interlock that can go on a main panel. It prevents the main breaker and generator breaker being on at the same time.
It's usually cheeper that a stand alone transfer switch. And it is approved.

http://www.interlockkit.com/

Dusty



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Bus Driver

07-26-2013 14:29:10
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 Re: BD, How does the transfer box with the few breakers work in reply to Dusty MI, 07-26-2013 10:13:32  
The interlock kit for about $150 is a ripoff. Genuine SqD is cheaper-- if they have one for your panel. I bought my SqD on eBay from a seller who must have been motivated as it was about half price. In addition to the interlock, the backfed breaker must be securely fastened into the panel. That prevents it from popping loose and having the live snap-on lugs flopping around exposed. The SqD genuine kit has that retainer. The $150 kit does not show it.

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Dusty MI

07-26-2013 17:10:28
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 Re: BD, How does the transfer box with the few breakers work in reply to Bus Driver, 07-26-2013 14:29:10  
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Bus Driver, Thanks for posting that. I knew that there are better places to buy the Inter-Locks. The web site I posted illustrates very well how they work.

I should have said to go shopping for a better price.

Dusty



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jgayman

07-26-2013 10:30:03
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 Re: BD, How does the transfer box with the few breakers work in reply to Dusty MI, 07-26-2013 10:13:32  
I've been using one of these InterLock Kit devices for years to attach my generator to the entire house. I had the mechanical interlock, breaker, and outside reverse-receptacle installed by an electrician.

I can power everything in the house except for the electric water heater. I can run the water heater if I turn off a few other items.

The whole system works great as an emergency power system. I have certain breakers marked with orange dots as those get shut off when running on emergency power.

From the moment the power goes off I can have the power back on in about 6-minutes.

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John T

07-26-2013 10:22:28
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 Re: BD, How does the transfer box with the few breakers work in reply to Dusty MI, 07-26-2013 10:13:32  
Thats what I was talkin about, thanks Dusty man, the AC Hat Man.........

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Dusty MI

07-26-2013 10:26:51
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 Re: BD, How does the transfer box with the few breakers work in reply to John T, 07-26-2013 10:22:28  
Then there is one that is a sub panel. The generator feeds that panel only, and anything you want to be able to run with the generator must be hooked to that panel. They will also work when the line power is on.

So you can see there are 3 or 4 different ways you can go.

Dusty



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