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rustyfarmall

05-12-2013 14:40:28
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I agree with what several others have stated. An OLD Troy-Bilt Horse is probably as good as it gets, but I'm here to tell you that I was not too unhappy when my old Troy-bilt gave up the ghost 'cause it was just getting to the point where I couldn't handle it anymore. A young man would get along just fine.
That Troy-Bilt is now taking up space where a tractor is supposed to be living, and the tractor is living outdoors. I would like to be rid of the Troy-Bilt.

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Hal/ Eastern WA

05-14-2013 14:42:37
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 Re: roto tiller in reply to rustyfarmall, 05-12-2013 14:40:28  
If it is just the engine that wore out, you can buy a 6.5 horse engine from Harbor Freight for about $100 that will bolt on (with metric fasteners) very easily, and will work very well. The "roll bar" around the engine even fit mine without any alteration. My Troy Bilt was given to me after my neighbor blew a rod through the side of the old B&S flathead engine.

The old Troy Bilt is a beast, and is really too large for small gardens, as it IS some trouble to turn around at the end of a row. And the old advertisements showing little old ladies running a Troy Bilt holding on with one hand were exaggerating a bit. Just try that in my garden when you run into a rock! But for getting a fair sized garden ready to plant, I have never used a walk-behind machine that worked better.

And repowering an old Troy Bilt is easy and cheap. I have seen several old machines at garage sales that they wanted less than $100 for. With a new HF engine, I believe they would till for years. Good luck!

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Billy NY

05-15-2013 13:58:51
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 Re: roto tiller in reply to Hal/ Eastern WA, 05-14-2013 14:42:37  
I would agree. The problem with rocks are that the ones in the subsoil under the top soil you are working, being embedded and held firmly in that subsoil, tines will grab or leverage quite a bit off them. In that case, its better to raise the depth up, tines won't hit so hard. Another thing is being smart with the throttle, the 7HP kohler K161 in my horse is just perfect, it has enough torque at lower RPM's to cut just fine, slower but so much easier on the operator. Once you have that soil worked up, or you have cleaned or excavated out the rocky soil, replaced with clean top soil, they work flawlessly. I moldboard plow first for more than one reason here, one is to displace large rocks underneath, part of one garden was loaded with them, the other side you can run full depth and full throttle if you like, soil was deeper, and cleaner. Favoring the throttle per the conditions is one of the secrets of using these in less desirable soils. I would state that using one of these to break new ground, that is sod bound with rocks, will be a long tedious endeavor, with lots of jerking and pulling, but even with the rock laden soils I can run it with one hand, just not at full throttle or depth in some areas. Soil with moisture, like the clay/loam/gravel here are a lot easier to till, let it dry out too much, its a chore, best left to a plow or similar if can be done. We have a patch of soil at the other place that is literally old horse manure and bedding broke down, 4 feet thick or so, and its like walking on a soft sponge, roots take no time to go deep, the other Troy Bilt in our family, a 8Hp kohler magnum, is so easy to use in a patch like that, almost hard to get traction, just sinks in, sure as heck wish my garden plots at home were like that, you can easily hand cultivate it to remove weeds.

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Billy NY

05-13-2013 05:51:02
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 Re: roto tiller in reply to rustyfarmall, 05-12-2013 14:40:28  
I am curious, what was the difficulty making it hard to operate with the troy bilt ?



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