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Re: Basic AC Power Systems

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John T

04-24-2013 10:49:18
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Gary, AGAIN DARN GOOD QUESTIONS

You ask "What was the advantage to this type of floating distribution system?"

Okay, these were sort of before my time, (I always speecified a Grounded system in all my years) but I have been "told" one advanatge in the early days of manufacturing was they didnt want a plant or production line to shut down if a ground fault occurred so with a "floating" non grounded system the machines and assembly line kept in production with a single ground fault. Also in a pure floating system theres "theoretically" zero voltage with respect to mother earth and zero voltage with respect to the machines or metal or conduit etc. in the vicinity. The Voltage is ONLY with respect to line to line NOT any line to earth or other metal or machines.. HOWEVER due to mutual inductive coupling and capacitance the farther away from the source and more wire runs etc the more voltage there can be developed albeit low energy.

NOW NO WARRANTY ON THIS maybe some old timer electricians and plant managers can expand on this but the above is what I was told and also is supported by the theory at least behind a floating system. In a floating system they can use detectors to sense if a leg is shorted that way they can fix it before a second leg shorts also YIKES Maybe some plant men and sparkies can comment on the advantages of the floating Delta also BECAUSE I NEVER USED THEM.....
and just arent familair with all their advantages. My Deltas had one transformer center tapped which I grounded and when I did design a 3 wire delta I still grounded one corner.

John T

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Dusty MI

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 Re: Basic AC Power Systems in reply to John T, 04-24-2013 10:49:18  
John, you got half of it. They didn't want to shut production.
There are/were indicator lights on the electric buss. So if one leg did go to ground the lights would indicate there was a short, and it could be repaired when production was not running.

Dusty



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John T

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 Re: Basic AC Power Systems in reply to Dusty MI, 04-24-2013 11:35:55  
Thanks Dusty my sparky friend (the guy with the AC Hat at Flywheelers), yep I mentioned the warning indication but it was so good to hear a confirmation of what I had been told as I lack expreience on those floaters......Even though theres such low energy from capacitance or inductance induced voltage way down the lines, I bet a guy could feel a tingle if he got across one line and say a machine or other conductive object way out in the plant somewhere???

Thanks for your help

John T

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