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Re: Hauling Oxygen Bottle

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JD Seller

04-21-2013 19:02:32
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You are only legal to carry them standing straight up. Your wooden box/tray will keep it from rolling around but it can still slide around.

BIG THING HERE!!! Never point the bottom of a high pressure tank at the cab of a vehicle. If something strange happens and the valve is broke off that tank become a rocket. It will go right through that sheet metal cab like butter.

Don't believe me??? Here is a Myth buster video showing one going through a concrete block wall and moving the wall as well.

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Stick welding

04-21-2013 21:49:57
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 Re: Hauling Oxygen Bottle in reply to JD Seller, 04-21-2013 19:02:32  
If it was illegal the cops would be sitting outside every welding supply handing out tickets by the thousands. It is illegal to transport cylinders hooked up to regulators but a lot of welding trucks do it anyway. It something happened and the valve got broke off, it would be a missile in any direction. Even on mythbusters the cylinder was placed quite a ways away from the wall when they broke the valve off.

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Gambles

04-21-2013 20:46:00
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 Re: Hauling Oxygen Bottle in reply to JD Seller, 04-21-2013 19:02:32  
When I was in high school, our ag shop teacher told us a story of what happened at the school that he previously taught at. One of the kids was moving a full oxygen bottle without the cap on (of course). He dropped it and knocked the valve off. It shot out of the shop through the garage door, hit the curb, went THROUGH the driver's and passenger's doors of a Pinto, shot up at 45 degrees and was found stuck in the ground in a wheat field about a quarter of a mile away. According to him, that's why he lost his previous job. Don't know if it's true, it's just the story he told us.

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Stick welding

04-21-2013 21:08:17
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 Re: Hauling Oxygen Bottle in reply to Gambles, 04-21-2013 20:46:00  
Sounds like a story of what could happen but if it did actually happen, he should have been fired over it and never been able to get another job as a welding teacher. People carry cylinders horizontal all the time. It's not illegal but it's scary that most don't secure them in any way. We get customers bring cylinders back without the cap and figure they can just take the cap off the full one with 2200 PSI. Sometimes they get real upset they have to pay a refundable $10 for a missing cap! It's like carrying a bomb around!

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Stan in Oly, WA

04-22-2013 11:06:26
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 Re: Hauling Oxygen Bottle in reply to Stick welding, 04-21-2013 21:08:17  
"he should have been fired over it and never been able to get another job as a welding teacher."

Even hypothetically, that seems pretty harsh for a situation about which you know none of the particulars. Having been associated with the welding program at the local community college for about ten years now, I can tell you with absolute certainty that there will never be a shortage of high school and college age students who will ignore any safety rules, find ways to defeat any precautions, and generally manage to damage equipment you would not even believe they could damage. To prevent any possibility of accidents you would have to have one attendant per student, and probably one attendant per attendant. Even if that absurd situation were economically possible, it would only reduce the number of accidents, not prevent them entirely.

Every incident has to be evaluated and judged on its own circumstances.

Stan

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Stick welding

04-22-2013 16:13:28
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 Re: Hauling Oxygen Bottle in reply to Stan in Oly, WA, 04-22-2013 11:06:26  
I agree with students just about anything can happen. I was referring to it as if the teacher allowed a student to move an uncapped cylinder. In most cases a student would be supervised when changing or moving a cylinder.



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Jon Hagen

04-21-2013 21:03:36
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 Re: Hauling Oxygen Bottle in reply to Gambles, 04-21-2013 20:46:00  
It is possible. Watching the myth busters one night, testing that exact theory.
They set up a large oxygen tank, it might have been compressed air at several thousand psi. Rigged up a gadget to cleanly shear off the valve. The tank went through a cinder block wall they built and almost through the cinder block wall of the building they were in. Those tanks make a pretty powerful and heavy rocket.

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