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Re: fuel tank repair

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Stick welding

04-20-2013 13:04:14
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TIG is the way to go but diesel exhaust doesn't do anything to prevent a fire. Diesel tanks aren't nearly as dangerous to weld as gas tanks but it makes no sense to rinse a gas tank with diesel. CO2 in the tank would be good, not Argon. Welding fuel tanks is a real touchy subject on an open forum and it's not a good idea to even suggest doing it. To give miss information is even worse. Someone could get seriously injured or killed.

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dr sportster

04-21-2013 11:42:18
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 Re: fuel tank repair in reply to Stick welding, 04-20-2013 13:04:14  
Argon -inert gas having no active chemical properties . So why the no argon comment ? If you say cost ,okay maybe but argon is fine to purge a tank. Yes welding tanks is dangerous. Cleaning a tank with any soap that contains Naptha can cause it to blow , argon not so much.



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Stick welding

04-21-2013 12:26:59
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 Re: fuel tank repair in reply to dr sportster, 04-21-2013 11:42:18  
How many argon fire extinguishers do you see? Argon is very expensive. Nitrogen is a common purge gas.



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Dave in Tx

04-22-2013 20:29:19
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 Re: fuel tank repair in reply to Stick welding, 04-21-2013 12:26:59  
Another thing about argon....I weld lots of tanks, both gas and diesel. I rarely take the fuel out of them. I purged a gas tank one time with argon cause I was out of my usual one. Gasoline will burn in a tank using argon. It won't blow but it will burn. I use co2 exclusively. Please, Please don't ANYONE do this without the rest of the schooling to know how. It is a process you must know in the correct order to be safe at it. A one quart empty gas tank off a lawn mower will clean a work bench and the stuff hanging on a wall. You MUST know the order in which you can do this!!!!!

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dr sportster

04-21-2013 18:51:05
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 Re: fuel tank repair in reply to Stick welding, 04-21-2013 12:26:59  
Well I didnt' know there was a fire extinguisher that blew out nitrogen .I would reserve the fire extinguishers for putting out fires. Alot more welding shops have argon than nitrogen. Just curious as to why you said not to use argon. I had nitrogen to run air tools and fill tires at one time and the gauge cost 400 bucks so I think argon is cheaper if you don't have nitrogen.Filling the bottles was about the same cost.

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Stick welding

04-21-2013 18:57:14
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 Re: fuel tank repair in reply to dr sportster, 04-21-2013 18:51:05  
I sell welding gasses. Nitrogen should be way cheaper than argon. I toured a 150 million dollar air separation facility. They said as long as they can produce argon, all the oxygen and nitrogen is pure profit. CO2 is used to put out fires, argon won't put out a fire. Nitrogen is dry and cheap. That's why it's used for purging.



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dr sportster

04-21-2013 19:22:10
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 Re: fuel tank repair in reply to Stick welding, 04-21-2013 18:57:14  
A tank purged with argon is the same thing as a tank purged with nitrogen . You are still not saying why you told the original poster not to use argon. As I posted not many welding shops have nitrogen but most have argon. So why did you tell him not to use argon?



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mnoliverguy

04-20-2013 19:08:11
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 Re: fuel tank repair in reply to Stick welding, 04-20-2013 13:04:14  
Dave,

you are just jealous that you did not fix it,and like to tell everybody else how much you know. But some of us know how you are. Have you checked your tickets??????????



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Stick welding

04-20-2013 21:15:27
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 Re: fuel tank repair in reply to mnoliverguy, 04-20-2013 19:08:11  
No, but I'm in a position to check them because I haven't blown myself up taking bad advice.



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mnoliverguy

04-21-2013 09:59:05
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 Re: fuel tank repair in reply to Stick welding, 04-20-2013 21:15:27  
Davey

He must not have blown himself up or he would not be telling us about it. Would he? Mr Drama!!!



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Stick welding

04-21-2013 12:37:33
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 Re: fuel tank repair in reply to mnoliverguy, 04-21-2013 09:59:05  
By the sounds of it and reading other posters comments, it might just be a matter of time before he blows himself up or someone else blows up following the wrong advice. Repairing fuel tanks isn't something to experiment with. Once again you have contributed ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to the original post. So who's all about the drama?



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