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Re: Guns, but no ammo

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Brad Buchanan

03-27-2013 17:04:13
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Interesting essay but law enforcement officers do not carry firearms for self defense.

It might work out that way but the firearm is one of the 'bag' of tool to enforce lawful orders.

In addition the stated porpose for the billion rounds of hollowpoint was for training and qualifying. Ask your friendly neighborhood range officer what happens to target boards when hollowpoints are used.

Also Homeland Security just bought 2700 armored personnell carriers. I told my wife years ago that when you saw American Tanks on American streets we were in big trouble.

Respectfully,

Brad

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RN

03-29-2013 12:10:24
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 Re: Guns, but no ammo in reply to Brad Buchanan, 03-27-2013 17:04:13  
target boards get chewed up a lot. One newer policy is target qualifying with duty rounds instead of reduced power target rounds- on the current self loading pistols reduced power sometimes means failure to feed hangups--that wasn't a problm with .357/.38 rvolvers using wadcutters for "light" practice. I tried a target load in old .45 auto and had many failure to extract/feed failures so when done with the 100 rounds just went back to cheapest hardball surplus and standard Federal softpoint 3/4 jackets- at the time the 225 grain hollowpoints were having some feed problems with the Cook County sherrifs deputies that tried to use it- needed a good ramp polish at least. Duty rounds that may have problem best used at range to see if they work is another policy- and get the shooter used to duty round flash and recoil. I used to use .44 Special loads in .44 Ruger for most shooting just because of wrist flinch, sore hands. .357 standard load is OK, the +Ps may have their uses but for most use the racoons in chicken house don"t know the difference- I may have some old full metal jackets laying around, the old policy was a speed loader of car penetrators in pocket for road block duty and deputy I road with was generous with leftovers after the switch to the 9mms and .45s.

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mgriff543

03-27-2013 17:20:12
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 Re: Guns, but no ammo in reply to Brad Buchanan, 03-27-2013 17:04:13  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see

Here's a link on the DHS activities.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/ssabullets.asp



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Whichester1

03-27-2013 17:17:04
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 Re: Guns, but no ammo in reply to Brad Buchanan, 03-27-2013 17:04:13  
I have given up the summer target shooting season due to tack of ammo. Welcome to the club.



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