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Re: Beaumont Vitali rifle

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old

03-19-2013 13:30:50
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Well I looked in all my books and did not find that rifle. Do you have more info on it as in muzzle loader or bolt action or what??




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RN

03-19-2013 13:52:34
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 Re: Beaumont Vitali rifle in reply to old, 03-19-2013 13:30:50  
Dutch and Italian bolt action single shots converted to magazine with the Vitali 4 round box. Think of the Mauser 1871 single shot made into repeater with the tube magazine to become the 71/84 model. Bolt handle holds striker leaf spring - was same system copied by the Japanese Muratas you were asking about ammo couple weeks ago. RN



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BIG RUH

03-19-2013 13:47:08
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 Re: Beaumont Vitali rifle in reply to old, 03-19-2013 13:30:50  
It's an Italian Vetterli M1870 with a Vitali magazine. It is a bolt action



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03-19-2013 14:06:54
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 Re: Beaumont Vitali rifle in reply to BIG RUH, 03-19-2013 13:47:08  
Now I know why my books do not cover it it is to old for the info I have. It does list the Italian Carcano which is what replace that rifle



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RN

03-19-2013 14:02:49
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 Re: Beaumont Vitali rifle in reply to BIG RUH, 03-19-2013 13:47:08  
Italian vetterli-vitali used 10.3x47r ammo. Dutch Beaumonts were the 11x52r/11.3x50r ammo. Vitali refers to the magazine system they were conveted with. Now you say it is Italian instead of Dutch? RN



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BIG RUH

03-19-2013 14:45:17
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 Re: Beaumont Vitali rifle in reply to RN, 03-19-2013 14:02:49  
From the photos I have found on the internet, I have a Beaumont Vitali rifle. The swiss vetterli rifle is different. How do I tell the difference between the Italian and the swiss?



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RN

03-19-2013 17:22:20
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 Re: Beaumont Vitali rifle in reply to BIG RUH, 03-19-2013 14:45:17  
Swiss use a rimfire cartridge .41. The Italians copied the swiss bolt action but used a centerfire cartridge. Strikers offset in Swiss. Dutch Beaumonts as noted used a different bolt handle with the leaf spring for striker/firing pin in the handle. Lots of things happened after American civil war and before WW1 with the cartridge breech loader replacing loose charged muzzleloaders, then the smokeless powders boosting bullet velocities and chamber pressures. Was interesting times among the empirial armies trying to keep up with other armies technology. RN

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