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Re: Stick Welded some Cast Iron the RIGHT way...

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03-19-2013 09:49:42

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I have probably repaired as much cast in the last 35 years as anyone on this forum. I have arc welded it-brazed it- OA welded it and metal stitched it and every process will work. Some are better than others on a given application. My problem with cast is, any way you repair it is expensive. Some of the electrode is well over 50.00 a pound not counting gasses for preheat and post heat and labor. It is pretty hard to repair a $29.95 Chinese vice for someone and charge him $150.00 to repair it.

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03-19-2013 11:18:18

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 Re: Stick Welded some Cast Iron the RIGHT way... in reply to welding man, 03-19-2013 09:49:42  
I agree with that. Nickel rod is through the roof expensive! I was just pointing out that it can be successfully repaired using arc welding. Some people claim MIG with standard S-6 wire will work on some cast ron repairs.

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03-19-2013 12:45:57

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 Re: Stick Welded some Cast Iron the RIGHT way... in reply to Stick welding, 03-19-2013 11:18:18  
A guy on Welding Web posted this a few years ago.

I do a lot of cast iron repairs with 100% success so far. Last year, after several months of research, I found information on a couple websites & mostly in an old Lincoln Welding book. The process is called "Cold Welding Cast Iron With MIG". I practiced several weeks on broken cast iron parts & broken/cracked manifolds my bro' gave me to get my technique down pat. It has worked with superb results.

I use MIG, 309/309L .030 wire, 98/2(AR/CO2) @15cfh & generally in the 80A range. You can use any gas with a mix of no more than 5% CO2 (ex:95/5). The 309 wire has a carbon content of .01 & works best. The idea is to keep the temperature cool by running short beads <1" & allowing the joint to cool before continuing. After running the short bead, you can take your glove off & lay your hand on the metal & will feel only warm to the touch. Since your pieces are not large, I would suggest shorter 1/2" beads & allow each weld to cool back to room temp before continuing.

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03-19-2013 14:46:14

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 Re: Stick Welded some Cast Iron the RIGHT way... in reply to Puddles, 03-19-2013 12:45:57  
I have not tried that process,Puddles and would not dispute it in any way, but it will still cost $75.00 to repair that 29.95 vice.

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03-19-2013 15:03:49

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 Re: Stick Welded some Cast Iron the RIGHT way... in reply to welding man, 03-19-2013 14:46:14  
Oh Welding man I agree with you 1000%! :wink:
I think Lanse does a lot of this for the challenge, and the learning experience. You or I would have pitched that vice in the scrap bin in New York second! :lol:

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