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Re: OT: 30-06 Options

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02-17-2013 13:08:10

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I have proof your wrong as per the NRA guide to Rifles and shotguns guns page 109 it flat out states the N.E.F Pardner Shotgun came in 10, 12, 16, 20, 28, and 410-bore Fitted with rifle barrels they became H&R single shot rifles. That is word for word right out of the book so eat your words I am 100% right and have the proof right here. Are they sold today I do not know but when I got my 410 tamer I was offered a 243 barrel with it and did not have the extra $$ to buy it

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02-17-2013 13:34:15

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 Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to old, 02-17-2013 13:08:10  
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For 1) you didnt post any proof, you could have made anything up and said it was in your owners manual or where ever you are claiming you got your "proof". Scan it and post it up or provide a link. 2) any idiot knows that the NRA guide doesnt put in every detail in their book so any quote from the NRA guide would be invalid anyway. For my proof of that, does the NRA guide list all the different recievers that H&R/NEF makes and how they go together with the different barrels? Nope, proof that the NRA guide dont even touch the tip of the iceberg. 3) why wouldnt you just go to the source to see if Im right or not? Are you afraid you would be proven wrong? (I know the answer but Im throwing it out there anyway)

Here, let me answer #3 for you. Its right in the first link, straight from the horses mouth. I would think, if anybody would know what New England Firearms is doing and selling for their guns, it would be them, dont you think? Well there you have it, proof posative that you CANT just slap a 30-06 barrel on a shot gun reciever. Besides, who is going to sell you one? NEF wont sell just the barrel, theymake you send them in, just like I told you and like it printed on their web page. Its not cheap, just like I told you and the same thing is printed on thier web page. Doing that is making a pipe bomb but Im sure for liability reasons, they dont explain it the same way I do but if you call them on the 800 number they list, they will tell you its quite unsafe.

Bottom line, you [/size:9d93d4c12d]CANT[size=12:9d93d4c12d] put a 30-06 barrel on a shotgun reciever.

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02-17-2013 13:47:57

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 Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to Rich_WI, 02-17-2013 13:34:15  
Again note I do not know if they still sell them but when we got the 20 and 410 they did but that was many years ago as in over a decades and that was also when it was still New England arms. I do not care what they sell now I am just saying at one time they did. Wish I still had the papers that came with the 20 gauge because it did list a good 10 rifle barrels that you could buy at the time. But this has also gotten just plain stupid since the guy who asked also said he wanted the know about to odd ones and now days those that I am talking about maybe odd. I'll not see any thing if you answer this I am tired of this stupid none sense. I know what I know and the books I have say

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02-17-2013 15:25:39

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 Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to old, 02-17-2013 13:47:57  
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Cute backpeddle but thats hardly what you have said so far. In fact, you were claiming just a little bit ago that you had "proof"..... in an NRA book. Like I said, if anybody would know what H&R is selling for barrels for H&R or NEF guns, it would be them, dont you think?
And as to your claim that 10 years or so you could buy a rifle barrel for a shotgun reciever... BullSpit. NEF and H&R have a long history of NEVER doing that. Is that clear? This has been the company policy since before I have been alive and I remember running into it way back in 1986 when the policy was explained to me and how it went way back before 1986.

Bottom line, it dont matter what you are claiming, or what any of this "proof" says that you refuse to post, you cant put a 30-06 barrel on a shotgun reciever. H&R never did it. NEF never did it. H&R even quit selling barrels to gunsmiths because on occation they did do it and what happened? Ka-Boom. Who got sued? H&R did because of the deep pocket rules of suing people.

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02-18-2013 21:36:36

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 Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to Rich_WI, 02-17-2013 15:25:39  
Next time I am in town I will get a print out of ALL the barrels that I can order for the 3 shotgun receivers we have. Talked to the son and he did order a barrel not long ago for his 12 gauge and he told me he could get from 243 up to and past the 30/06 for it

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02-17-2013 13:22:18

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The shotgun frames are cast iron(SB1 frame), the rifle Frames are steel(SB2 frame). The only rifle barrels that can be safely used on the shotgun frame(SB1) are the .357mag and 44mag. H&R/NEF/Remington even refuse to supply new barrels for the rifle(SB2) frames that are more than 10 years old or so.

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02-17-2013 13:44:01

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 Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to RGMartin, 02-17-2013 13:22:18  
That maybe so now but back when we got the 410 and the 20 gauge which was when it was still New England arms they did in fact offer rifle barrels. Note I did say I do not know if they STILL and note STILL sold them but know they did at one time but that too was 10 plus years ago

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