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Re: Redneck Mini-Project, a New motorcycle and everything el

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Rich_WI

02-17-2013 12:31:26
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Ummmm, no..... the link clearly shows a motorcycle tire balancer. That is not for truing up a wheel, although I think you could do that if you wanted. A truing stand bolts the wheel in so it can only spin, the balancer is open on top so it can easily lift off. I think you would struggle with the wheel always popping up off the stand if you use a balancing stand but again, Im sure the job can get done.

For a balancing stand, if you dont know how they work, you can google them but in short you mount the tire and put the wheel on the balancer. Then give the wheel a slight spin, it only needs to make a single spin or more. Some people just take the part of the wheel that is on the bottom and put it near the top. Then gravity takes over and when the wheel stops moving, you know the heavy spot is at the bottom. Mark the top of the wheel and repeat. Add weight as needed so that the wheel stops in random spots and you know the tire is balanced.

Again, its highly unlikely anything needs to be done, motorcycle tires are pretty good now days.

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I will mount every tire you got for $100 apiece and I will balance them for free. Thats easy money, right around $200 a hour. No reason to be scared of an ice tire, a little properly used leverage and the tire almost jumps on the rim. Lance can do the same thing, go to the scrap pile and make one of these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjcZfL_tzVA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_cKs2WyQ8c

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Stick welding

02-17-2013 18:46:53
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 Re: Redneck Mini-Project, a New motorcycle and everything el in reply to Rich_WI, 02-17-2013 12:31:26  
A bubble balancer will work too but the cheap ones can be off. Why would you buy a balancer for 2 tires anyway?

You're obviously not talking about the same ice racing tires as I am. You have to use a smaller size tube when you have 2 street bike tires with the sidewalls cut off stuffed inside a regular size tire on the same rim. The tires never jump on the rim. Having a rim clamp is a big help if you can get it to fit but it still has to be done manually and isn't fun. One slip and the sharpened s crews will tear your hands up.

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Rich_WI

02-17-2013 20:05:22
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 Re: Redneck Mini-Project, a New motorcycle and everything el in reply to Stick welding, 02-17-2013 18:46:53  
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Why would you use a bubble balancer if they are known to be off? *Where is the head scratch icon?*

I wouldnt buy a balancer, I built one. A couple in-line skate bearings and some scrap steel. I dont think I even have $10 in it and thats if you include the super-duper expensive synthetic oil I put on the bearings. I simply posted the link so on the far off chance that Lance did want to balance his tires he could copy what is available for sale. If he felt his time was worth more than the $50 they sell for, he could buy one. Moot point though, he already confirmed what I predicted, none of the tires he has mounted so far, both this bike and his last one, needed balancing. My experience has been the same.... want to buy my balancing stand? I dont have a need for it.

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I will mount every one you give me in exchange for a crisp $100 bill and I will balance them to boot. Did you even watch the youtube videos I posted? Thats not me nor is it my product but I copied it. It works great. The reason the tires dont jump on the rim for you is because you dont have a handy-dandy tool like I made. Granted, the tires dont "jump" but compaired to spoons, it seems like they do. The video shows a stiff walled motocross tire being worked on in minutes and thats no trick camera work, its real and street tires go on easier and faster. It takes people longer to get out their wallet to pay me than it does to mount the tire. Many times its like they feel cheated because I can do it so quick. If you dont want to make the tool, you can buy them. I think they are on ebay for around $150. Mine came out of the scrap pile so I only have a little welding rod in it and some time.

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Stick welding

02-18-2013 22:13:47
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 Re: Redneck Mini-Project, a New motorcycle and everything el in reply to Rich_WI, 02-17-2013 20:05:22  
I've seen a cheap bubble balancer and then seen the same wheel put on a Coates bubble balancer to compare. I'd trust the Coates and they weren't registering the same.

Not just a stiff motocross tire. A stiff moto-
cross tire with two street bike tire treads inside of it and several hundred sharpened screws all around it. They are quite heavy too. Especially hard to mount 19" tires because they already have a narrower side wall. I know guys that have ice raced for 20 years or more and even the best tire mounters struggle with some of them.

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02-17-2013 14:33:58
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 Re: Redneck Mini-Project, a New motorcycle and everything el in reply to Rich_WI, 02-17-2013 12:31:26  
If one was to true a wheel on that balancing stand they would have to come up with a way to keep the spindle from spinning in the stand bearings . If you need to true a wheel an old swingarm in the vise works well. The best truing stands were made by Rowe and they have gone out of busness. Now the ones on ebay sell for about five hundred bucks . If you are not building alot of wheels it doesn't pay.

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