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Re: Example of the Ammo I was given

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RN

02-08-2013 14:57:26
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Japanese? or Chinese character- about the same since Japanese used Chinese characters/script. See if a 5/16 nut will just about fit- that maybe a 8mm Murata then. Easy fit maybe 7.7 x58 but they were usually pointed bullets. Some of old Mauser A cartridge from black powder days for variations of 1871 .43/11mm cartridge- the 9.5 Mauser also from that old original black powder family- the Mauser 1871/84 was used by China and some others in mid east awhile, bunch of them made it to China after WW1 like other new countries. Japanese and Chinese arsenals made ammo for some "non standard" but we got a bunch of these rifle in inventory or were supplying some revolutionarys- .303 British, 6.5 rimmed Manlicher from Dutch issue, 7mm Mauser, 8mm Lebel,old British .450/577 has been noted at gun shows with "Chinese" markings. Chinese mainland arsenals made some 6.5 Jap loads 1960s and it ended on surplus market. RN

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02-08-2013 15:55:47
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 Re: Example of the Ammo I was given in reply to RN, 02-08-2013 14:57:26  
With calipers here is how it measures out. it is 2.93 long base of the brass is 0.620 give or take a tad bit as in the extractor part down off that is 0.544 and the bullet is 0.430 give or take a tad bit. Does that narrow down what it might be?? Also one of the other marks looks like a line top and bottom with 3 lines up and down between them sort of like a Roman number 3



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02-11-2013 16:14:55
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 Re: Example of the Ammo I was given in reply to old, 02-08-2013 15:55:47  
11 x60r Murata specs: length 3.13, rim .632, base .542, bullet .432. Originally black powder, later loaded in smokeless powder. The first rifle domestic for Japan. features from Mauser and French previously used by Japan used- one feature was use of leafspring in bolt handle for firing pin instead of coil spring. superceded by the 8mm Murata, then replaced with Arisaka (mauser basic 98) series. I'd say you have a 11x60R Murata likely smokeles load, your measurements are within hairs distance of specs.- the rifle was used as secondary /police/ issue into 1930s. RN

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02-11-2013 17:34:13
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 Re: Example of the Ammo I was given in reply to RN, 02-11-2013 16:14:55  
I will pass that info on to the son who has it and a 50cal round sitting in his room on top of his TV



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