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Dusty MI

01-31-2013 04:39:05

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The L shaped wires do work, I was using mine yesterday morning for the same reason that you want.

Here in Michigan we have Miss Dig. Before any contractor does any digging they must call her and there is no charge.
Landscapers call before planting trees. The County Road people call before driving posts for any sign posts.

But try the wires. I've been using them for about 60 years, any shown it to doubters and even had them try it and have it work for them.
Hold 1 in each hand with them sticking straight out in front of you, the will cross as you walk over a buried line, and then go back straight after passing over it.

Yesterday I did something I had never done, or tried, before. I followed a tile line by walking right over it. When the wires would start to uncross I would just turn and follow it. It made a large sweep to my left.


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01-31-2013 19:22:14

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 Re: BURIED ELECTRIC LINES in reply to Dusty MI, 01-31-2013 04:39:05  
I've used the wires too, and they do find underground wires, tile and pipes. They also cross when there's nothing down there to find. So how do I know if the wires are really finding something or just pulling my leg?Using only one wire works too and it always goes across my body when it goes sideways. So I theorize that's why two wires cross each other. It's not because they are attracted to each other, it's because they naturally go across your body, but I don't know why. Jim

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Dusty MI

02-01-2013 06:00:58

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 Re: BURIED ELECTRIC LINES in reply to Fixerupper, 01-31-2013 19:22:14  
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I've never used just 1 wire.
If you use just 1 wire, and it's in your right hand. Does it rotate counter clock when you cross something? And if so. If you had the wire in your left hand, does the wire rotate clock ways?

I've got to try that.


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01-31-2013 08:48:44

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 Re: BURIED ELECTRIC LINES in reply to Dusty MI, 01-31-2013 04:39:05  
If you can actually dowse with your bent coat hangers, there's a check for a million bucks waiting for you.

Dowsing is nothing but superstitious nonsense.

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Dusty MI

02-01-2013 06:09:48

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 Re: BURIED ELECTRIC LINES in reply to MarkB_MI, 01-31-2013 08:48:44  
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At JREF, we offer a one-million-dollar prize to anyone who can show, under proper observing conditions, evidence of any paranormal, supernatural, or occult power or event.

I would NOT call dowsing for a buried line paranormal, supernatural, or occult power or event.


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02-01-2013 08:31:07

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 Re: BURIED ELECTRIC LINES in reply to Dusty MI, 02-01-2013 06:09:48  
Well, Dusty, it doesn't really matter if you think dowsing is paranormal or not. It's not your million bucks that's on the line. Randi says it's bunk, all you have to do is prove him wrong. Many have tried and failed.

Of course there is a good explanation for dowsing: the wires, stick or whatever is completely controlled by the dowser. Just put a blindfold on the dowser and see what happens.

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02-01-2013 07:19:08

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 Re: BURIED ELECTRIC LINES in reply to Dusty MI, 02-01-2013 06:09:48  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to seeOH! Absolutely NOT! Clearly it is scientifically based in hard physics, solid irrefutable science, with every element of the operation easily explained, demonstrated, repeatable and independently proven by every well known university science & physics department as well as the US Government NIS. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Dusty MI

01-31-2013 09:39:54

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 Re: BURIED ELECTRIC LINES in reply to MarkB_MI, 01-31-2013 08:48:44  
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MarkB I don't know where you are at in Michigan. I'm also in Michigan. PM me and sooner or latter we'll get to gather and I'll show you how to find a line. And I'll bet it will work for you also.

That goes for anyone. Maybe for all who are interested we could have one big get together.


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01-31-2013 17:36:52

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 Re: BURIED ELECTRIC LINES in reply to Dusty MI, 01-31-2013 09:39:54  
Dusty, I'm not going to waste your time and mine. If you can truly pull this off, you should be collecting your cool million from James Randi.

Let me suggest a (literally) blind test: Have yourself blindfolded and led outside by an assistant. Have the assistant point you in the general direction of a buried line or whatever it is you think you can locate. Don't peek, you're only cheating yourself. Have your assistant tell you when your bent coathangers cross or uncross or whatever it is they do. Then start digging. Let me know what you find, be it waterline, pet cemetery, spring-tooth harrow, mastodon tusk or buried treasure. Don't give up! Sooner or later you're bound to find something. When you do, you'll know you're ready to collect your million dollar prize.

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Dusty MI

01-31-2013 05:45:41

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 Re: BURIED ELECTRIC LINES in reply to Dusty MI, 01-31-2013 04:39:05  
What I would like to know is how the wires work ?

I have located;
Water lines, steel, copper, and plastic.
Tile, both plastic and clay.
Natural gas lines.
Electric lines, direct bury, copper and alumiumn and in conduit, plastic and steel.
Grave sites. We have not dug up a grave to prove someone was buried there.

This post was edited by Dusty MI at 06:11:50 01/31/13.

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01-31-2013 05:56:15

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 Re: BURIED ELECTRIC LINES in reply to Dusty MI, 01-31-2013 05:45:41  
I don't know for sure how they work but I have an uneducated theory.... I think its based on differences in the ground density - disturbed vs undisturbed soil.
Had an electrician on a job who swore by it. We were trying to locate his line from the past fall and he thought he found it. I had done my own as-built drawings and measurements on that job and told him he was about 15 ft off. 10 minutes later digging with the shovel where he thought it should be, he found a perimeter french drain line. Had him move in about 15 ft and he found his electric lines both with the shovel and with his 2 wires method... but it was a stronger read at the french drain with his wires method.
So, good chance I'm wrong here but I think it has something to do with disturbed soils or voids.

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Dusty MI

01-31-2013 06:02:50

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 Re: BURIED ELECTRIC LINES in reply to TonyIN, 01-31-2013 05:56:15  
That has been my guess also. But one would think that with direct bury electric wires that had been in for many years, the ground would get packed back down like the ground around it.


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