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Re: Acetylene tank explodes in car trunk

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Bret4207

01-29-2013 08:35:31
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Gentlemen, if you can find a Federal DOT law stating that the largest propane tank allowed to be carried in an enclosed vehicle is a 20 lbs tank I'd love to see it. If you can find a state law I'd love to see that too. I never meant to imply they should be "rolling around" in the back, but again, if you can show me a Federal or State law that specifically addresses securement propane or other compressed gases in non-placardable quantities I'd love to see it.

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Dusty MI

01-29-2013 14:40:43
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 Re: Acetylene tank explodes in car trunk in reply to Bret4207, 01-29-2013 08:35:31  
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I think the propane tank standards/regulations were in place before DOT.

Here they are from Canada.

http://www.apollopropane.com/pdf/TransportingPropaneCylinders.pdf



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Bret4207

01-30-2013 04:43:03
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 Re: Acetylene tank explodes in car trunk in reply to Dusty MI, 01-29-2013 14:40:43  
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Dusty, that's fine if we were in Canada and even then I'd want to see the specific law. They refer to the "guidelines" they offer and even then the TDG is like our FMCSR and applies to specif quantities. Small quantities are usually granted exceptions and for compressed gases like propane it requires 119 gallons in a single container IIRC before the regs affect the carrier.

I'm not endorsing the idea of unsafe practices. I'm just fed up with people trying to apply laws that aren't applicable to the situation and quantities. I don't mind someone making a suggestion, but telling me it's the law when it isn't is called lying around here.

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JMOR

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"if you can find a Federal DOT law "



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 Re: Acetylene tank explodes in car trunk in reply to Bret4207, 01-29-2013 08:35:31  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to seeWhy upright for propane? Newer tanks have a valve to prevent liquid draw, so in upside down or horizontal, they have what amounts to double valving....almost seems safer. As for acetylene horizontal...not a problem, especially if standing upright for a time period before use. We have used them horizontal for over 50 years (still do) & NEVER expelled acetone. If it is raining & sun is shining, the devil is beating his wife!

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