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Re: Hey Old, haven't seen you posting?

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David G

01-21-2013 21:52:05
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Nope, Cold War, they kept some diesels around for research missions.




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David G

01-22-2013 21:03:22
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 Re: Hey Old, haven't seen you posting? in reply to David G, 01-21-2013 21:52:05  
They would do missions up the Russian rivers under the ships.



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showcrop

01-23-2013 04:25:34
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 Re: Hey Old, haven't seen you posting? in reply to David G, 01-22-2013 21:03:22  
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I read a book awhile back about submarines during the cold war, there was no mention of going up rivers. In fact I have never read about submarines going up rivers submerged. I did read about an incident when a new model Russian sub came out that one of ours managed to get pictures of it without getting detected. The skipper got close enough that the picture was three frames taped together. Another incident was not so good. Our boat was detected by the Russians north of the Aleutians in Russian waters. They were able to keep on her tail for three days until our sub had to give up and surface under the Russian's guns. very embarrassing.Could you give your source for the up rivers under ships?

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sflem849

01-23-2013 04:41:16
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 Re: Hey Old, haven't seen you posting? in reply to showcrop, 01-23-2013 04:25:34  
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I read during WWII they shipped some subs submerged down the Mississippi. It was on a chamber of commerce website for a city along the Illinois river. Seneca?



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01-23-2013 04:44:30
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 Re: Hey Old, haven't seen you posting? in reply to sflem849, 01-23-2013 04:41:16  
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And today they can't float a barge down. LOL



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old

01-22-2013 09:24:32
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 Re: Hey Old, haven't seen you posting? in reply to David G, 01-21-2013 21:52:05  
When in sub school in Groton CT we where told yes there are still a few Diesel boats around but they where all just trainers that was in 1974/75. At that time they where not even listed as active boats if what we where told was true. So as you call it the cold war shoot that started what in the middle of the 50s??? And went on till the 90s when the wall came down between east and west Germany



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Billy Shafer

01-24-2013 10:46:01
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 Re: Hey Old, haven't seen you posting? in reply to old, 01-22-2013 09:24:32  
The last Navy diesel boat. Was retired in 2006.



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old

01-24-2013 11:46:47
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 Re: Hey Old, haven't seen you posting? in reply to Billy Shafer, 01-24-2013 10:46:01  
Ah but what was it used for?? Most likely a trainer



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Billy Shafer

01-25-2013 11:36:39
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 Re: Hey Old, haven't seen you posting? in reply to old, 01-24-2013 11:46:47  
It was a research sub used to test out new systems. Holds some pretty impressive record.

Deepest dive by a sub 3000+ feet.
Deepest firing of a torpedo.

USS Dolphin.



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old

01-25-2013 12:32:45
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 Re: Hey Old, haven't seen you posting? in reply to Billy Shafer, 01-25-2013 11:36:39  
Test or trainer about t6he same difference. So now where id you get those numbers from??? I still know thing about subs that if I told the wrong person I can go to jail just for saying them



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buickanddeere

01-25-2013 19:30:03
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 Re: Hey Old, haven't seen you posting? in reply to old, 01-25-2013 12:32:45  
Most of the classified and even the Secret info is on the Internet somewhere for anybody to access. As for design specs. A little figuring knowing the pressure hull thickness, the steel allow and the placement of stiffenng ribs. Any hughschool student can figure dive capability within a 100 feet give or take. Reactor power, steam generator size/surface area, material and thermal output is just a few calculations. The laws of physics are not a secret.

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old

01-25-2013 19:42:53
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 Re: Hey Old, haven't seen you posting? in reply to buickanddeere, 01-25-2013 19:30:03  
Well since you not in the U.S.A. there are things a person who was in the military said and oath to that if we do not keep such can go to jail weather or not it can be found other wise. Please as I have asked before if you can not say things to go along with what I say but instead try to prove me wrong just leave me alone. O know the oath I took and what I was told you do not and sadly do not seem to understand that

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Billy Shafer

01-25-2013 18:27:57
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 Re: Hey Old, haven't seen you posting? in reply to old, 01-25-2013 12:32:45  
I know. My sister worked with the Blackbirds and a listening station in Japan for the Air Force. Still things she can't talk about.



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Billy Shafer

01-25-2013 18:24:22
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 Re: Hey Old, haven't seen you posting? in reply to old, 01-25-2013 12:32:45  
Look up USS Dolphin. Don't know much about subs. I am a bird farm sailor.



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buickanddeere

01-22-2013 06:05:31
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 Re: Hey Old, haven't seen you posting? in reply to David G, 01-21-2013 21:52:05  
If research means being able to sneak around super quiet on batteries . Instead of the shake , rattle and hum of a U235 fueled boiler. One of the reasons the new subs are electric drive. To allow higher performance with the reactor scramed for silent mode.



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