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Hey Old, haven't seen you posting?

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Lou from Wi.

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Was wondering if your post containing subject matter of guns and ammo is POOFED. Rather enjoyed your perspective on lack of real true news.I must agree, you can't get it. It seems as all news is based on rag magazines, worthless to read, Even in the shop when working on tractors and such, TV is worthless anymore,and so is internet sites, seems they are scared to death of posting the above subjects.
Regards, LOU
 
(quoted from post at 09:33:43 01/21/13) Old maybe laying low since being scolded for using the ground system to carry neutral current?
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Where you been B&D? Old got beat up again on finding TDC yesterday.
 
Gene
Where are you located ? I was raised in the small town of Eldon , not far from the Bagnell Dam.
I ve lived in Az. the last 28 years & try to get back yearly to see my 93 year old mother .

John
 
I am still here and has nothing to do with what Showcrop has to say he is one that always jumps me if and when he can and does buickandeere I do not care and ask they both just leave me alone. I have the right to my opinion and they have there but they do not have to right to attack a person in a harmful way.
As for guns and ammo well that is a right given to me by the founding fathers of this nation and I being a former military man will fight for them
 
Old, it's too bad that some people don't respect other. Guess there are bullies in grade school and bullies on YT.
George
 
Very true and there is a right way and wrong way to differ in an opinion. You can do it with respect or you can do it in a harmful manner. One way is the correct way and to debate is ok but when you do it in a way to be hurtful then that is wrong and you have just gone from being right to being wrong
 
We may not agree politically, but I still like you and respect your knowledge.

What branch of service?
 
Navy called a Vietnam era vet due to the fact I joined before the end of it. 1974 to 1980 started out on subs boomers then went to the JFK aircraft carrier.
As for politics well not all of us can be right LOL but as for the guns and what type mags I own small and large but both have there place when being handle correctly
 
Old I was on the USS Saratoga CVA-60. I remember when the JFK first came into the Med. Lost all four cats in one day. Left us on the line for a month.
 
Most have been before my time on the JFK. I got on her around 1977 or so. Did do a med cruse at least once. Got stuck at Rota Spain due to bad weather and had to be flown out to the JFK the next day since the whale boats could not run due to waves
 
Most be a very old guy since the last diesel was the Natulas (sp) which was cut in 2 then had a reactor installed. WW2 vet I am guessing???
 
If research means being able to sneak around super quiet on batteries . Instead of the shake , rattle and hum of a U235 fueled boiler. One of the reasons the new subs are electric drive. To allow higher performance with the reactor scramed for silent mode.
 
According to my flight logbooks, I flew one mission on the last day of "hostilities" 23 March 1973. The Paris treaty was signed the next day.
 
Ah but the draft did not end till the last of 74 and in 1975 they where still pulling troops out. Sorry it did not end till we have all that they could find out.
Again I have asked and will again leave me alone and I'll leave you alone I do not want you info or to talk to you or with you on any thing
 
Ah but when I got out of doing wiring what I said was common practice and was the way it was done. The last time I worked as an electrician was in 1992 give or take a year or two and at each break box we always used a earth ground. Seen way to many metal building where a guy walked up to it and garbed it and got the heck knocked out of him from a shock from the building not being grounded as it should have been. As for code now days I di not know and I can only say what was done then. By the way do not bother to answer this because I will not see your answer
 
When in sub school in Groton CT we where told yes there are still a few Diesel boats around but they where all just trainers that was in 1974/75. At that time they where not even listed as active boats if what we where told was true. So as you call it the cold war shoot that started what in the middle of the 50s??? And went on till the 90s when the wall came down between east and west Germany
 
Did you personally draw HFP for any one month? That determines whether you are a Vietnam Vet, in the eyes of the real VV. Not what year you were drafted.
 
(quoted from post at 22:03:22 01/22/13) They would do missions up the Russian rivers under the ships.
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I read a book awhile back about submarines during the cold war, there was no mention of going up rivers. In fact I have never read about submarines going up rivers submerged. I did read about an incident when a new model Russian sub came out that one of ours managed to get pictures of it without getting detected. The skipper got close enough that the picture was three frames taped together. Another incident was not so good. Our boat was detected by the Russians north of the Aleutians in Russian waters. They were able to keep on her tail for three days until our sub had to give up and surface under the Russian's guns. very embarrassing.Could you give your source for the up rivers under ships?
 
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(quoted from post at 22:03:22 01/22/13) They would do missions up the Russian rivers under the ships.
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I read a book awhile back about submarines during the cold war, there was no mention of going up rivers. In fact I have never read about submarines going up rivers submerged. I did read about an incident when a new model Russian sub came out that one of ours managed to get pictures of it without getting detected. The skipper got close enough that the picture was three frames taped together. Another incident was not so good. Our boat was detected by the Russians north of the Aleutians in Russian waters. They were able to keep on her tail for three days until our sub had to give up and surface under the Russian's guns. very embarrassing.Could you give your source for the up rivers under ships?
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I read during WWII they shipped some subs submerged down the Mississippi. It was on a chamber of commerce website for a city along the Illinois river. Seneca?
 
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(quoted from post at 05:25:34 01/23/13)
(quoted from post at 22:03:22 01/22/13) They would do missions up the Russian rivers under the ships.
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I read a book awhile back about submarines during the cold war, there was no mention of going up rivers. In fact I have never read about submarines going up rivers submerged. I did read about an incident when a new model Russian sub came out that one of ours managed to get pictures of it without getting detected. The skipper got close enough that the picture was three frames taped together. Another incident was not so good. Our boat was detected by the Russians north of the Aleutians in Russian waters. They were able to keep on her tail for three days until our sub had to give up and surface under the Russian's guns. very embarrassing.Could you give your source for the up rivers under ships?
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I read during WWII they shipped some subs submerged down the Mississippi. It was on a chamber of commerce website for a city along the Illinois river. Seneca?
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And today they can't float a barge down. LOL
 
Old never claimed to be a Nam vet. He said he was a Viet Nam era vet. Which is what you would be called if you served any time during the war.At least he is not making claims like some I have seen. No one served in nam after the war and if you are under thirty. You did not serve in nam.

As for me
USS Saratoga CV 60 Tonkin Gulf 1972.
 
It was a research sub used to test out new systems. Holds some pretty impressive record.

Deepest dive by a sub 3000+ feet.
Deepest firing of a torpedo.

USS Dolphin.
 
Test or trainer about t6he same difference. So now where id you get those numbers from??? I still know thing about subs that if I told the wrong person I can go to jail just for saying them
 
Northern Sar Helo pilot, USS Reeves, DLG-24 1966
Rescue Helo Pilot Uaa Constellation Tonkin Gulf 1967
Pilot, Fighter Squadron 92, USS Constellation CVA 64 Tonkin Gulf 1972 10 months
VF-92, CVA-64, Tonkin Gulf 1973 10 months
437 Green ink missions. Received and sent fire on 75% of them.
 
I know. My sister worked with the Blackbirds and a listening station in Japan for the Air Force. Still things she can't talk about.
 
Most of the classified and even the Secret info is on the Internet somewhere for anybody to access.
As for design specs. A little figuring knowing the pressure hull thickness, the steel allow and the placement of stiffenng ribs. Any hughschool student can figure dive capability within a 100 feet give or take.
Reactor power, steam generator size/surface area, material and thermal output is just a few calculations.
The laws of physics are not a secret.
 
Well since you not in the U.S.A. there are things a person who was in the military said and oath to that if we do not keep such can go to jail weather or not it can be found other wise. Please as I have asked before if you can not say things to go along with what I say but instead try to prove me wrong just leave me alone. O know the oath I took and what I was told you do not and sadly do not seem to understand that
 
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