Safe Delivery, Question

I bought a safe on Saturday. It is going to be delivered in a few days. I bought it from a safe dealer 30 miles from me. (not a department store)
Am I being paranoid if I ask the 2 delivery guys for their names and addresses? In case I am ripped off in a month.
 
Doesn't if have a way to set the combination to what you want?? I have always heard you can do that with a good brand of safe
 
Wile - you could ask them, but then in the dark of the night, as you lay in bed staring at the ceiling, you'll wonder if they gave you legitimate info.
 
Simple , have a camera available. When they drive
up and they carry it in the house have someone take a picture of the truck AND license plate. as they come out the door thank them and ask for their autographs , then take a picture of them getting into their delivery truck, so when they tell their friends, who will be the one to rip you off. YOU will have a start as to WHO DONE IT
ggp
 
Just pay attention to the delivery company. Take note of it and write their names down if they have it on their shirt. They should give you a copy of the freight bill ( not a monetary bill, more like a confirmation of delivery), have them sign it also. The general way to look at it is if they are with a legit company and have been with the company a while, they are probably legit. No one wants the liability of a crook on the payroll.
 
I agree. If they work for a safe dealer. They should be bonded. I have had that pulled on me several times while doing generator installs at homes. Walked off the job one time along with several other guys.
 
A reputable company will be bonded and insured.
Call the supervisor ahead of time and tell him you would like to know the names of who is delivering the safe.

That should be about the best you can do.

We had a sofa delivered before christman. Same worry. They saw my gun safe and all my animal mounts on the wall so it was obvious I was a big hunter.

The safe should be bolted or chained down anyway. So what can they get? Also make sure you keep accurate insurance and a list of serial numbers, Etc.

Gene
 
You're joking, right? Because if you aren't and pulled that on me after delivering and msucling the safe into your home after you requested it, my first cellphone call would be to the police to tell them that you just accused me of robbery, and my second call would be to my lawyer to sue you and my boss for setting me up.

Mark
 
If you asked me that I would immediately think you were hunting someone to frame so you could rip off your ins company & you woulden't be getting that safe from me. I'll guarantee you if you ask the owner or delivery guy that & something happens shortly afterwards YOU will be the prime suspect.
 
If he is worried about the delivery guys have wife take pictures of delivery and if they say anything say she making a scrape book of pictures of her husband hobby. As far as asking for ID. it is legal but you don't give your social security number or drivers license number . In the 38 years I drove I was asked 1,000 of times for ID.
 
You didn't buy it out of the back of some shady characters truck at 2 am. If you were ripped off, they'd be prime suspects anyways. I'm pretty sure locksmiths and safe dealers have to have special licenses to be in business. Otherwise they could rip off everyone who ever gets a key made or a lock changed. Just appreciate it that they will deliver it 30 miles.
 
How are you going to protect the safe? If you bolt it too a wood floor, they will chop out the floor and haul the safe away if they can't open it. If you anchor it to the concrete floor in the basement, it might get flooded sometime - or mildewed and spoil the contents.

Maybe a safety deposit box at a bank would be safer for important small stuff - and a really good hiding place for the larger stuff.

My wife's opinion is: "If they are determined to get you, they will!"
 
The big reason for a safe (I have one) is they are a fireproof place to keep valuables, mostly papers in. Mine is a cube about 2 foot square and I just have it setting on a table and it was next to computor desk.
 
a safety deposit box is a bad idea. why, because when you die, everyone important has to be standing there when it's drilled.
 
If I were the guy delivering it I'd be offended if you were to ask for such info and would refuse to give it as you have absolutely no right to do so. Think about it like this, would you ask the same of someone delivering a new appliance or piece of furniture? I doubt you'd even think about that, but the only thing the guys delivering the dafe know, that the others wouldn't, is that you have had a safe delivered. The guy bringing in a new dresser could see the safe, the guy bringing in a new refrigerator could see a safe in another room, and they all can see any other valuables, electronics, big screen TV's, etc, etc that you have laying around.

In the end regardless of what someone is delivering to your house it presents each and every one of them an opportunity to see at least some of your belongings. In any case there is always the remote possibility that one of them is dishonest and might use what they see to their advantage. In other words asking anything is worthless just because the guys are delivering a safe, and to do so creates the distinct possibility of just totally pi$$ing the delivery guys off and you having to get the thing in and set yourself.........
 
Easy solution. Just ask them if your hustler and playboy collecton kept in there would draw moisture if was opened more than one time a day.
 
Responded to a chimney fire one time, at an old couple's place. They collared the chief before we went in, had a discussion with him. A little arm-waving, etc.

Turns out they were antique collectors- must have been a hundred thousand bucks worth of antiques inside. Primarily top-quality curved glass china hutches, completely lining the living room walls. We went into the attic, and put the fire out. Before we left, chief said the discussion was about whether to let us in- they wanted us to put the fire out from the roof. Chief had told them we had to go in the attic to make sure it wasn't on fire (and it was about to- embers were spilling out between the bricks). He told us that we would be prime suspects if they were burglarized- but they never left the place, had guns all over the house, and would shoot to kill.
 
Accused you of robbery? Set you up? I truly fail to see how asking to see I.D. is accusing you of robbery. You're delivering a high value safe that will hold high value goods, be it guns, money, or jewellery. You'd obviously be one of the first suspects if a robbery were to happen soon after. Are you going to sue yourself for setting yourself up? After all, you put yourself in that position by being employed where you are and agreeing to deliver said safe to said property.
 
(quoted from post at 18:44:49 01/14/13) I bought a safe on Saturday. It is going to be delivered in a few days. I bought it from a safe dealer 30 miles from me. (not a department store)
Am I being paranoid if I ask the 2 delivery guys for their names and addresses? In case I am ripped off in a month.

Yes, you are being paranoid. Haul it home yourself if you are worried about it.
 
Most safes can have combinations changed and the instruction manual will tell you how. If it is 400 pounds or more you probably won't need to bolt it to the floor. Smaller or lighter than that, bolt it down.

Bob
 
saftey deposit box sounds like a good idea for that reason.... Box will contain the will, which can be read at that time.... May also include leather work gloves for some lazy relatives; And, instructions on how to use them...
 
What a rowdy bunch you guys are!

First off, the safe is 700+ pounds, I cant just drive it home.

It is a circle dial combo lock, the instructions are in the manual, with a key on the dial. The driver could look at this, make a copy of the key too.
I do not think it would be out of line to ask for this guys name/address. Just in case kind of thing. I did not buy this at a home depot or wally Mart.
You think I am paranoid asking for the guys name/address? I am not asking for a fingerprint and blood sample.
This guy and his helper will move a safe into my house, have access to the combo and key and know where it is going in my house. If none of you would be worried about this if you were buying a safe then you are way to trusting of strangers.
I guess some of you are too quick to make rude comments before thinking about my situation. Am I wealthy, nope....Just want to lock up a few guns and 2 wedding rings and tax return papers.
I seen and heard of too many break-ins and the PITA that follows a break-in. My uncle's home was broken into, TV, Jewelry, coin collection----all gone, in broad daylight. My uncle lives 20 miles from me. You really start thinking about burglary after you know someone that has experienced it.
 
I bought a gun safe about that size years ago from a gun shop. I was given the keys and combo when I paid for it. It was locked when the delivery guys delivered it so they never saw combo or keys.
On your safe see if you can change the combo if you think somebody may know it.
 

There's an old saying; The guy that always worries about some steeling from him is the guy to watch.
 
You have that a little bit wrong. There are people out there that have work hard all of their life for what they have and don't some dumb azz to steal it to surport their habits.
 
didn't read all the replies,Usually employees that handle things like that are bonded, you could ask the supplier if his employees are bonded. A sketchy person could probably not be bonded.
 
I don't know why you bothered to ask on here. Nobody was making rude comments or insulting you. They were just telling you how it is. YES, you are being overly paranoid! Maybe you would be better to get a good alarm system? You bought a heavy safe from a place that specializes in them.

If you really think the guys delivering it 30 miles are going to come back, hope no ones home, go directly to the safe to steal what they don't even know is in it, then you've got bigger problems than being paranoid. Petty thieves want to get in quick and be gone even quicker. If someone broke into your house and got the safe open, it wouldn't take a rocket scientist to suspect the guys delivering it. I don't think a 700 lb safe would be the easiest thing to break into by a petty thief. Have the safe delivered and don't worry about it.
 

I do not think you should worry. In the last 15 years I have had a very large, fireproof, safe delivered and a slate table pool table. Both went in the basement by very large, football type young men. Never had a problem.

_steve
 
Even with the delivery guys names and address"s. What good is it going to do? If your house was broken into after it was delivered, you would still have to prove it was them, one of them or not. Most likely if they are crooks, they will have one of there buddies do the crime, so as they (the delivery guys) will have an air tight alibi.

On the flip side, if something were to happen to the delivery guys house, you can bet you would be the first one the cops would look at, well, because you were the guy that insisted on getting there names and address.
 
What's your address again? I once knew a family that after being robbed never left the house unguarded, day or night sameone was present and awake 24-7. The old man died about 15years later and the kids took turns at the house and the funeral hope you're not that bad yet.
 
Most "gun" safes are pretty useless when it comes to keeping people out. The sides and back are usually made of 14 gauge mild steel - maybe 12 guage. With a sawzall and some decent blades a person can have a huge hole cut in them in 15 minutes. If they plan ahead a bring a circular saw with a good blade they could be done in a couple minutes.

Most have a B rating as a "residential security device" if they have a rating at all.

If you can get a B/C rating you'll have something.
 
Yes, best suggestion so far, get the key, the manual with the combo and take it with you.

Cops cannot search the delivery guys house on suspicion because he delivered the safe, taint legal. As noted, they should be bonded anyhow.

I figure the workers don't come back and do a job, but they tell their crack head buddies where and what they saw, sometimes not realizing what they are doing even, then you have to worry.

This is a safe dealer, they sell safes all the time, you think every customer gets broken into after they buy a safe, would make for bad business.

Charles
 
I am a locksmith and have a storefront. I sell safes and deliver. I am licensed bonded and fingerprinted, and have a state contractor lic. Where you are buying probably does as well. We do not want our lively hood screwed up over some petty stuff you might have in your safe. The employee I hired had to go through background check and fingerprinted as well. I would not send someone to your house I did not trust with my lively hood.
In 30 years no one has ever asked me for my home address. There havce been some that plainly did not like me knowing their combo. I do not take it personal. I will walk the customer through changing it so he can change it after I am gone on his own. Just dont close the door without checking new combo a few times.
I also recomend bolting it down because the big heavy tall safes are not balanced, when you open the door it could tip over.
 
Your observation is correct. There must be an attraction for tractors amongst the few sour, negative, dyspeptic churls who lurk around this board. If you ask a reasonable question many, but certainly not most, will misinterpret your question and find a way to be insulting. Maybe its a hobby for these boys but personally it creates a good reason not to post here.
 

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