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Topic: Shop floor drain goes dry
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DKase

12-27-2012 18:43:56
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Water in the trap in the bathroom floor drain goes dry every 3 days, and the sewer gas fills the shop. I tried RV antifreeze and that lasts a week. I do not have floor heat. I would think floor heat would make the problem much worse. Has anyone come up with a solution for the problem other than causing a plumbing leak to keep the trap filled?




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LenND

12-28-2012 13:59:38
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 Re: Shop floor drain goes dry in reply to DKase, 12-27-2012 18:43:56  
I agree with Pete. You either have a plugged vent or no vent at all. The vent could also be in the wrong location. The drain is being used as the vent for some reason.



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jackinok

12-28-2012 08:00:52
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 Re: Shop floor drain goes dry in reply to DKase, 12-27-2012 18:43:56  
go down to a plumbing supply place and buy a screw type rubber plug if you dont use the drain much. then when you need it simply pull the plug.



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Gregorius

12-28-2012 07:47:13
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 Re: Shop floor drain goes dry in reply to KF, 12-27-2012 18:43:56  
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I have to agree with pete black, I'll bet you have a plugged vent stack.



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Ted in NE-OH

12-27-2012 19:30:37
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 Re: Shop floor drain goes dry in reply to DKase, 12-27-2012 18:43:56  
That is WAY too fast, you have another problem other than evaporation.



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pete black

12-27-2012 19:19:06
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 Re: Shop floor drain goes dry in reply to DKase, 12-27-2012 18:43:56  
could be you have a venting problem and the water is being pulled out of the trap whenever a large volume of water is dumped down the drain.



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downsouth

12-27-2012 19:12:43
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 Re: Shop floor drain goes dry in reply to DKase, 12-27-2012 18:43:56  
Send big Bubba in there every few days to do his thing. Certainly he will stop up the toilet and it will overflow keeping your floor drain adequately filled.
Seriously though, if it's really drying out that fast I would be concerned the trap is broken and the water is seeping into the ground under the floor.



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jper

12-27-2012 19:03:48
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 Re: Shop floor drain goes dry in reply to DKase, 12-27-2012 18:43:56  
pour some vegetable or olive oil down the drain after filling the trap with water, it will create an oil slick on the water and should slow down the drying out process, they also make a device called a trap primer, it is usually installed on new construction to floor drains that wont be used very often it hooks up to a common used fixture such as a bathroom or laundry tub everytime you turn the facuet on a little bit of water will flow thru the pipe you would need to install below your floor to connect to your floor drain. i would try the oil first, easy and wont cost you much, good luck!

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Retired Farmer

12-27-2012 18:57:07
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 Re: Shop floor drain goes dry in reply to DKase, 12-27-2012 18:43:56  
Why do you have a drain in the floor in the first place?



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Wade1984

12-27-2012 19:05:07
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 Re: Shop floor drain goes dry in reply to Retired Farmer, 12-27-2012 18:57:07  
Use some vegetable oil to form a layer on top to keep evaporation down.



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504

12-27-2012 20:44:17
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 Re: Shop floor drain goes dry in reply to Wade1984, 12-27-2012 19:05:07  
I know it is too late now, but my floor drains all drain out to the downspout tiles on the house. I have no sewer connections to my floor drains.



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PJH

12-27-2012 21:31:51
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 Re: Shop floor drain goes dry in reply to 504, 12-27-2012 20:44:17  
You know - I've heard of running the floor drains to the downspout drains, but I always wondered about getting an obstruction downstream and then having it all back up during a hard rain. A roof handles a lot of water. Am I missing something obvious? How would you keep that roof water from backing into your building?

As to the original poster - there's got to be a leak in your trap for it to dry up that fast. I know of a church addition that developed a leak in one of the waterlines under the men's bathroom. It was seeping up through a small crack in the concrete floor, and suddenly one Sunday the floor was completely dry. Upon close investigation I discovered a small hole had been drilled in the floor drain trap, allowing the seepage to go directly into the trap instead of coming up into the building first. A brilliant idea, I thought, but after we fixed the waterline leak, we had a perpetually dry floor drain trap because of that hole. I finally managed to get a sheet metal screw in the hole, but it was a bugger, and it still seemed to dry out quicker than the trap in the ladie's room. Thank God for those extendable magnets or I'd have filled the trap with dropped screws.

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